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On Stewart, Heaney and Paladino: That's Racist

On Stewart, Heaney and Paladino: That’s Racist
Carl Paladino has been one of the most controversial candidates for statewide office in New York's history.  He's received heaps of national media coverage and been criticized relentlessly by countless media personalities.  Most recently, Jim Heaney at the Buffalo News wrote a lengthy piece with the headline "His history with blacks not a plus for Paladino."  In it, Heaney led with the well-trodden email controversy.  From there, however, he went on to view almost everything else Paladino has done in his life through the prism of racist or not racist

Paladino, a frequent donor to political campaigns, has given more money to white candidates then black candidates. Implication: That's Racist.  He gave money to Kevin Helfer to try to beat Byrown Brown: That's Racist. He gave money to Mickey Kearns to try to beat Byrown Brown: That's Racist. Paladino's companies wouldn't provide a list detailing the racial composition of the workforce: That's Racist. Paladino, despite constantly attacking the Buffalo School Board and Superintendent, has not adopted a school or made donations to school foundations: That's Racist.

You may have missed it, but Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert held a Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear this weekend in Washington, DC.  Stewart, a darling of the left, closed the rally with a memorable speech.  In it, Stewart said "But we live now in hard times, not end times. The country's 24-hour political pundit perpetual panic conflictenator did not cause our problems, but it's existence makes solving them that much harder...If we amplify everything, we hear nothing. Not being able to distinguish between real racists and Tea Partiers or real bigots and Juan Williams and Rick Sanchez is an insult, not only to those people but to the racists themselves who have put in the exhausting effort it takes to hate." 

The 24-hour political pundit perpetual panic conflictenator didn't slow down though, as now there are photos of Carl Paladino out a a local bar on a weekend.  And get this, there is someone in the bar - and in photos with Paladino - who is in blackface.  Mind you, no one has any idea what the guy's costume was (he seems to have been going for the Jimmy McMillan look but doesn't have the unique facial hair structure to pull it off) but because Paladino is in a photo with him, well, THAT'S RACIST. Really? Really?   

Mercifully, tomorrow is election day and the robocalls will stop and the "he's a racist" "no, he's a socialist" point - counterpoint debates will quiet down.  Until 2012.

And let me make the first comment for everyone: This post is racist. Now proceed with the "conversation."   

 
 









 
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I definitely wouldn't call this article racist. You're certainly entitled to your opinion and you certainly didn't say anything hateful...you just support a candidate that is.

In my humble opinion, someone that forwards emails with the N Word in them is most certainly a racist. I could easily stop there.

In my humble opinion, The Tea Party has problems in regard to its image with race. Very few black or hispanic people are involved with the Tea Party. Some people that identify with the Tea Party movement have hoisted signs with racialized images and epiphets on them. That doesn't exactly bolster the image of the Tea Party as accepting and diverse, don't you think?

I too supported Kearns. I would support Grisanti if he was in my district, too. To me though, these were the best candidates on issues and in ethical standards. This isn't necessarily indicative of racism for Paladino (nor myself), but it could be for anyone for all we know (until ones motives are disclosed).

Not supporting a city school is not racist. You are correct. However, the point they were making is that he doesn't have much in the way of redeeming community involvement to counter the amounting evidence.


If some of our conservative posters on BRO see this, I hope they equally critique the article for it's opinion-laden qualities...even if I doubt they could.

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Interesting you assume the author to be a Paladino supporter. Did I miss something?

replied to BuffaloByChoice
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...only that he defends him like he's Caputo himself. But, hey, that's not at all damning evidence, right? I suppose a more appropriate question would be to ask if you missed something?

I get this crafty arguement from my wife all the time, but just because you don't come out and say "I support Carl" doesn't mean you didn't allude to it so heavily as to make this point readily apparent.

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Racist is defined below:

- a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

I thought the article is saying, it's a bit extreme to match the definition above, with the behaviors described.

Granted, the emails are an issue. A professional politician would know better, but the need for that degree of polish seemed to be part of what he was running against.

If you don't like the guy, fine. Carrying a lot of venom for the guy seems a bit misplaced.

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So you're saying that forwarding emails with the N Word in them is not racist then? This is your claim? Are you posting from Mississippi?

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If you looked up the word "Socialism", "Capitalism" or something similarly complex, your definition would be equally limited to the one you found for "Racism". My point is that more than just a belief in racial superiority itself falls under the canopy of racism. Slurs that are used to insult a singular race are a vestige of racism and are inextricably related.

Why should we accept insults geared at someone solely on the premise of something they don't control anyway? Nobody asks to be black or white...we're just born that way.

replied to BuffaloByChoice
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I know people that can't speak about blacks without using the 'n' word. I think they are racist.

I said forwarding the email was an issue. I don't know if he forwards everything he receives, or if he has some type of filter. I don't forward. Some people forward everything. Knowledge of that would help, all in all, it doesn't concern me as much as you.

Needing to reach a conclusion about whether someone is a racist, based on a single behavior, seems a bit simplistic.

I've never really had a bunch of racists thoughts... so I guess I'm not so concerned trying to find them in others. Perhaps 'doth protest too much', might be appropriate, but it would probably just send you off to google, and then back here to protest some more.

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I don't do a whole lot of Googling, actually. I have my B.A. in Political Science, I read/browse a few different newspapers every day and nearly all of my recreational reading is academic. I don't want a trophy, so save the jokes. I get that this sounds arrogant.

There are shades of gray with racism. Carl Paladino probably isn't a Klan member, but I would argue that his statements aren't just politically incorrect, but they're dangerous. He obviously has enough hatred of blacks to suggest they be instructed on hygiene from camps set up in prisons. That's not casual, that's relatively extreme for NY state!

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I know people that can't speak about blacks without using the 'n' word. I think they are racist.

I said forwarding the email was an issue. I don't know if he forwards everything he receives, or if he has some type of filter. I don't forward. Some people forward everything. Knowledge of that would help, all in all, it doesn't concern me as much as you.

Needing to reach a conclusion about whether someone is a racist, based on a single behavior, seems a bit simplistic.

I've never really had a bunch of racists thoughts... so I guess I'm not so concerned trying to find them in others. Perhaps 'doth protest too much', might be appropriate, but it would probably just send you off to google, and then back here to protest some more.

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Buffalo by choice, have you ever been to Mississippi? Its actually more desegregated than Buffalo. Its funny how Buffalo people start throwing out the old southern stereotypes when it is actually a place like WNY has more racial issues than the deep south. You may read a lot but you don't experience a lot.

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As a person who has spent considerable time in the South for work, including Mississippi, I can tell you that your reference is severely outdated. Buffalo is a far more segregated and racist city than any city or town down there.

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benfranklin, I think there is a lot that you've missed.

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Jon Stewart is a left wing liberal who is afraid of the Tea Party. He uses his television show to stump for democrats and liberals, while continually bashing the right. In one program he spent nearly 3 minutes of a 19 minute show making fun of Palidino for his remarks on homosexuality, and at the same time said that Orthodox Jews dressed funny and brainwashed their children. This is not exactly an objective source that we should look to for guidance on America.

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I think you should take into consideration that jon stewart is a comedian. If anyone looks to one person for "guidance" as you put it then they are obviously easily manipulated whether they lean to the left or right. It not the persuasions of the jon stewarts, colberts or mahers we have to be afraid of, its the Paladinos, Palins and all the other politicians running on negativity and anger.

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I get it now. We should hate the right and everything they stand for, especially their opinionated pundits like Limbaugh and Beck. We should excuse the left and their pundits because they are just trying to have a little fun at the expense of the rich. Stewart, Colbert, Maher, Seib, Maddow, Moyers, Winfrey, Huffington, and Krugman, are all just entertainers out to make us laugh. They aren't trying to sway public opinions like the right wing personalities. Is that right? They are not angry or opinionated, so they should get a free pass to use the media to push their agendas. After all, it is just the right wing Fox News and talk radio crowd that we need to fear. Well, you need to fear because they challenge your viewpoint. You agree with the liberal personalities so that makes them OK in your book.

Have you realized that you are a total hypocrite yet?

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I'm not saying that this is a left or right issue, i simply stated campaigns run on negativity and anger and used paladino and palin as examples. If you can have an opinion on jon stewart, i can too. Having an opinion on a specific person does not make me a hypocrite.

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First: The Truth and Facts have a liberal bias. That's just reality.

Second: Limpballs (oxycontin boy) and beckerwood (crybaby) are LIARS, HYPOCRITS of the worst sort, not to mention Bigots and Homophobes - that's easily proven by their statements, while those on the left are NOT - get the difference?

To give some examples:

Oxycontin Boy rails on and on about black people doing drugs and how they should have the book thrown at them and locked up and forgotton - while he's using drugs - THAT'S DIFFERENT!!! - plus he's raking in millions instead of rotting in a prison somewhere.

Beck's blackboard of (not) history is so rediculuous that it's not even worth publicizing - by his reasoning - someone is a communist because they have a "c" in their name! Yes - it's that rediculous.

And scratch a TeaBAGGER (they're too stupid to realize the name they GAVE THEMSELVES!) and you get a racist. Period. Even from supposedly college educated persons. I could point to the countless signs they carry. Palladino sends racists emails - and claims the it's a "construction industry" thing - well - I'm in the "construction industry" and I never see it and - no - it's NOT common! And for some to excuse it as an "unguarded momment" means that they have momoents - MOST PEOPLE DON'T GO AROUND FORWARDING RACIST EMAILS AND USING THE "N" WORD!!!

Let alone all the "Stop the "socialist" government take over but "KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE AND SOCIAL SECURITY!!!" disconnect. Talk about being Hypocrits!

Rachel, Keith and the rest all tell the TRUTH - I defy you to name ONE lie they say, while most of what Fux spews is JUST lies!

And - name one instance of a left-leaning person stomping on or hitting a teabagger - IT DOESN'T HAPPEN! THERE IS NO "EQUIVALENCY"!!!

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Thank you for your obviously objective and unbiased opinion. It is obvious to me that you are not capable of having a rational discussion on this, your first two lines proved that. Come back when you grow up a little.

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Sorry if the TRUTH hurts.

The one that needs growing up is YOU.

Notice you can't refute any of what I said...!!!

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OMG, you are retarded.

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I agree.

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Lol! I have a fan club.

replied to I f$ck Pitbulls
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This is ridiculous!

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I agree, this really is ridiculous!!

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Poodle: i must say you have finally made it. Congrats, doggie, dog.

replied to sho'nuff
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There are biased people in the media on both the left and right, undeniably.

Did you see me contend that point at all? We watch and listen to those that typically reinforce our belief systems. I am pretty much no different (I don't often read the Wall Street Journal)...but do you honestly think you are?

I'd like to know what your take is on Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin's "Honor Rally". Do you think these folks who similarly provide extremely biased "news" are guiding forces?

Do you similarly have disdain for Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly for their right-wing biases?

P.S. Thanks for dinging me. I similarly dinged you. :P

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personally, i don't think well-off white folks get to determine what is or is not racist behavior, just like men don't get to decide what kinds of behavior demean women.

suggestion to bro: drop the meaningless 'lifestyle' tab and replace it with an 'editorial' or 'opinion' tab, just the big boys and girls of journalism do, and file essays of this nature there.

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Good post!

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Right on. Rich black people shouldn't have any right to say anything about white people either. Well off women should have no right to make jokes about men. They should have no voice in deciding what those who are not like them can do.

replied to grad94
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...then why do you get to define well-off and white? Why would you feel the need to make this distinction?

Let's try to be a little less divisive.

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i used it only because well-off white folks don't experience racism to nearly the degree that low-income black or latino folks do, just a fact of life.

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I thought the idea was to be 'colorblind', or not dividing people up into groups (all created equal, and that stuff). You make it sound like anyone that's done well financially is fair game.

I'm pretty sure all power forwards in the NBA are doing better financially than me. Can I make all kinds of comments about them, because that's 'just a fact of life'?

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That's blackface. Looks like The guy needs a shave. And what is the point of this whole commentary? Sounds like you needed to rant.

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I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is, but any defense of Paladino is insulting, and has no place on this site.


Let's not argue semantics. By sending those emails, Paladino shows what he thinks of African-Americans in general, and President Obama in particular. The emails were disgusting and degrading. And in my opinion, playing up racial stereotypes for sport is racist.


Bottom line is I don't care what you call it. Making fun of a traditionally oppressed minority, whether it's blacks, women or gays is reprehensible, especially from a person that wants to be governor.


Paladino is an embarassment to Buffalo and his behavior is absolutely unacceptable, whatever you call it.

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So "Choose Cuomo, not the homo" and Obama "Can't shuck and jive at a press conference" might be considered racist and homophobic when put to the Palidino test.

Can we eliminate him as a candidate too? Does he get a free ride because he is a democrat.

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Bobbycat: I won't argue with you there. Cuomo has made bigotted statements too. The unfortunate thing about this election is that it's the lesser of two evils to choose from. What else is new?

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is it reprehensible when comedians make fun of blacks, women and/or gays?

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Lis Lampanelli makes fun of the blacks, the jews, the chinks, the deafs, and the whites---hilarious!

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She's funny. And cute.

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What does this post have to do with Buffalo Rising? Sounds more like a venting rant to me, lame. I also noticed all the negative votes on those who think the same, are those from the fools that want to see Carl in office simply for the fact he is from the area? Of course he won't win, but if he did your vote would be wasted becouse he would more likely than not be ousted out of office within a month or two during which short time frame he would further make Buffalo look like a city of backwards fools more than he has already.
The man is the laughing stock of the nation on every TV network and newspaper along with city folk across the country.

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The thread will generate 100 times the traffic of the 'new business opening' articles. Eye balls on the ads pay the bills. That's what it has to do with Buffalo Rising.

You're obviously an enlightened individual. If you could spare a moment from your busy schedule, perhaps you could share with us what led you to support Mr. Coumo, or is your vote just an anti-Paladino vote?

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lesser of two evils who will not make NY look like a state of homophobic bigoted losers. As to new business openings, yawn. Go through the threads for the last 4 years of BRO and see which ones are still open, not many.

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The last gallup poll I could find shows americans 57% against gay marriage, 40% in favor. I sense your about to call me a name... or worse. As your parents probably told you (or one of them), don't be so concerned about what others think, let's vote for the person best for the average NY'er... I think we both know who that is. Maybe try to to express your outrage in multiple sentences. It's easier to read.

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Please, tell me who is better for the average New Yorker, and really, the average New Yorker, not buffalonian.

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In this race....probably the libertarian.

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...about being homophobic... that picture of the two guys sitting close on the couch makes me uncomfortable (the set list thing....those are guys?, right?). Let them do what they want, but I wouldn't ask them to look at a picture of me and my wife. And if I received an email with more pictures... I wouldn't forward them.

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Now your just joking right? 2 men on a couch together bother you? I believe you need an evening out at Fugazi or give up being Carls manager.

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I don't like to listen to comedians that work the race angle, so I don't think it's okay when they do it either.

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Do you just cover your ears and sing some old folk song and pretend it isn't there?

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Arrogant and you don't like comedians. You sound like a great time. You available to come to a cocktail party I'm throwing?

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Jim Heaney was a good, very opinionated, blogger for a while when the News had him doing that. His posts didn't hesitate to indicate his personal political preferences.

Then at some point they ended his blog and now he's usually assigned political reporting duties at which he's often an attack dog against any pol he doesn't like. That's more appropriate to blogs or columns than reporting on Page 1.

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As the author of the WNYMedia article in question, I will tell you that I spoke with two people at the bar who informed me the guy was dressed as "an old black man". Saying the guy was in "blackface" was not a stretch, it was quite aptly the description of his costume.

Does that mean Carl approves of guys in blackface? No. It means that once again Carl showed horrible judgment in getting drunk at a neighborhood bar 48 hours before an election and frolicking about with a guy in blackface.

He is, by far, the worst major party candidate for any office in recent history.

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We can tell ourselves that getting drunk at a neighborhood bar on a weekend shows "horrible judgment." And it does show bad judgment in that he should know that, in this day and age, some clown with a camera and a website will post those pictures and the intellectually vapid "swing" voters will factor that piece of "information" into their voting calculus. And now we can go about electing someone with "good judgment" like Mr. Cuomo and we can talk again in 4 years when we're all disappointed and surprised that somehow, someway, despite electing the consummate outsider (never mind he's the son of a governor and current AG and has an epicly terrible resume at HUD) nothing will have changed in NYS government.

But don't we all feel better for criticizing Paladino for his "horrible judgment?"

It'll be nice when we can, in the future, elect actual human beings to political office instead of stiffs born to run campaigns like Cuomo.

well we know what absolute looser you are voting for. A Gov hopeful that got drunk in a bar two nights before election...YAY!

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idk Christine O donnell might have him beat fot that title

I wonder if this will do anything to Palladinos chances of being Govenor. It wasn't like he was going to win anyway.

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This post doesn't seem to actually say anything. I don't really know what you're getting at.

Maybe you should stick to writing the sports articles because as a political pundit this falls well short of anything.

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He has been about as good an ambassador for Buffalo as the Blizzard of '77.

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is it racist for me to think this guy has ties to the mafia?

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Early election returns show the scumbag repuklicans and hate mongering tea baggers are losing across the board. It is good to know that common sense and compassion will win out over bigotry and racism. This will be another great day for America, you heard it hear first.

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Love that you can call them scumbags, and yet they're the hate mongerers. Let's check back tonight and see which side common sense chooses.

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Unfortunately, common sense always seems to be in short supply around election time...

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From another blog "The "Zombie" in the picture wrote:

I am the zombie in the picture. _______ Paladino was not drunk. I repeat NOT DRUNK. He was drinking water. When the picture was taken he was in the middle of saying rent is too high. He said this because the guy with the black face paint was dressed as Jimmy Mcmillian. _______ Again, I was there I was in the picture, and no I am not a Paladino supporter _____."

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Black face costumes are racist. The white guy dressing as Jimmy Mcmillan should have known better than to objectify African Americans. He should have known better than to perpetuate racial stereotypes. Karl Palladino should have known better than to poke fun at an opponent in such a racist manner. Pallidino should have known better than to hang out with a guy in black face two nights before the election. We all know that Karl Palladino is a racist biggot. Now we have the pictures to prove it.

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You are playing a character on here, right? Like a left wing Colbert parody thing?

If so, genius.

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thank god the liberals got lambasted and removed by a sane American voting population. Adios to Skeletor Pelosi and her crazy eyed politics. Welcome back to sanity you f&**king hippies

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