City September 2, 2010 11:31 AM

The Angry Bees

The Angry Bees
There is another bike group hitting the roads these days. It's not Critical Mass, or the Midnight Madness gang, or the Lazy Randonneur Club. It's The Angry Bees, a group of cyclists that departs from Allentown every Wednesday at 7pm. They meet at The Hive just around the corner from Hardware. The group looks to have around 50 members, many of whom wear yellow shirts with wide black bee-like stripes. Their ultimate destination is McCarthy's Pub in the old First Ward - an extremely bike-friendly watering hole.

For those people who feel that these cycle groups can get a bit out of hand, rest assured that The Angry Bees are harmless for the most part. The queen bee leads the swarm down Allen Street, along Main Street to the waterfront, onto South Park (past 120 South Park), to the Michigan Bridge, along the river and in through the door of McCarthy's. The Queen Bee is responsible for rounding up the swarm, directing the swarm and making sure that the individual bees are accounted for.

If you're looking to join up with The Angry Bees, the best thing to do is to show up with your bike at Hardware just before 7pm on a Wednesday and wait until they cruise around the corner. Once you're in the swarm you may be introduced to The Hive... bring your honey and some money and be a part of the newest buzz.

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Yay just what we need, another group of cyclists that drink, litter, and generally break every law on the road. Instead of waiting for one of these cyclists to die ,which is inevitable considering they way these people are acting, can't we stop it before hand and have a crack down on this stuff before it happens?

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a CRACK DOWN?? on a group of cyclists??? this is what you think we need to "CRACK DOWN" on?? seriously dude, get a life. Our nation is moving on from being a auto-centric society. If you don't like it, move to the burbs.

Groups and people like this, my friends, are what make living down here a distinct privilege.

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Well I can't ride my bike sober

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I beelieve

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If they were drunks driving a car on the road throwing their trash out the window and I said we need a crackdown I bet my score would be better.

Can't before someone gets mangled or dies because they are on the road with a bike wasted acting dumb do something to prevent it?

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Eisenbart = Burger Meister Meister Burger

This is something we should embrace, rather than prevent.

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As long as it goes like QueensEyes says, I won't have any problem.

"For those people who feel that these cycle groups can get a bit out of hand, rest assured that The Angry Bees are harmless for the most part. The queen bee leads the swarm"

It's when the "swarm" behaves raucously at inappropriate times that I have a problem with.

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the way i see it, motorists have been clogging up the roads twice a day every weekday for the last century or so. some of them are under the influence and plenty litter out of their windows. it is called rush hour, and we accept it as the natural order of things.

but a group bicycle ride once a month, after rush hour, is practically a criminal offense to some minds. if they're drunk and disorderly, enforce the law if you must, but first thank your lucky stars that they aren't driving cars.

now tell me again, if we don't want people to drink and drive, why is it that bars have to supply a minimum number of off-street parking spaces? people who drink and pedal are usually a threat only to themselves.

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I'm a bike rider in the city but I do think a lot of the riders in Buffalo do more to hurt our cause than help it. The rules of the road apply to all of us. Groups tend to be safer than individuals just because it is a group.

I do think that someone getting killed is a great possibility due to their own actions. I've witnessed many close calls at the corner of Bidwell and Elmwood and it won't be long before someone dies. If you have to blow a red light because you can't stop your fixie, then ride a bike with brakes. And 90% of the time the bike rider has the balls to yell at the motorist who is actually following the traffic laws.

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Lots of negative comment generaliztions... and who said that "they" litter?

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generalizations are fine in this case since I'd say about 99% of the fixie crazed hipsters have complete disregard for traffic law....

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and personal hygiene...

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Just because we're Bees doesn't make us litter bugs. I wish he could've gotten a better picture of my Bills helmet.

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yeah... where the efff do you draw the conclusion that you'll get litter from bikes??

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I don't see a single person in either picture wearing a helmet.

replied to BuffaloEastSider
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I don't see anyone wearing a green shirt either. Both are personal clothing choices.

There is no law requiring helmet use for adult bicyclists, and the safety research is very contradictory. Under certain specific circumstances helmets do seem to help reduce injuries, but under other circumstances they may in fact increase injury risk and severity.

Pedestrians have the same statistical risk of head injury as bicyclists; should they all wear helmets too?

It's a complicated issue. See http://www.cyclehelmets.org/ for an enormous amount of facts and analysis (it is a bit dry, though).

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Whoa, easy big fella. I was responding to this:

"I wish he could've gotten a better picture of my Bills helmet."

I don't care if you ride around with scissors in your mouth.

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Oh, gotcha. I thought you were piling on with all the other "bicyclists all all reckless inconsiderate litterbug scofflaw drunks" comments that seem to be the rule of the day. I got a little excited, sorry.

I think his Bills helmet is in the first picture, hanging off his backpack.

replied to LouisTully
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Oh, there's Waldo. Good eyes. I hope you don't actually ride around with scissors in your mouth. I exaggerate violently.
I'm all for cyclists. As long as they're not riding by my house in loud packs at way too late hours. I try to show them the respect that I know most don't. Except motorcycles. I know it's the exception not the rule, but the scofflaws always stand out. Now if cyclists start splitting lanes (which is illegal in NY) and crowding around my car in packs while I'm driving revving your engine (which is impossible on a bicycle) and riding like idiots who deserve to end up in the hospital, then I might rethink my position on cyclists. But I don't see any of that happening.

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The Buffalo Bills helmet is attached to my backpack.

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AT ALL TIMES!!!

replied to BuffaloEastSider
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And here is a much more readable summary of the bicycle helmet issues: http://bicyclesafe.com/helmets.html

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In America there is no real bike culture, save in select cities, and even then it's a challenge riding there. These bikers are pioneers. In 100 years, when we are dead, bicycles will rule the roads. In the future I hope bicycles have generators so power is produced that will then be transmitted without wire to catchment satellites along the way. Cool huh?

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Dem dare pictures shows a bunch of bee's stopped at dat dare red light...

No reason to get judgmental once you see a crowd on bikes. I love the fact that it's one of the only groups that are not protest crazy, and the fact that they actually get out to ride instead of bringing their opinions and or poilitics into biking, Is also quite appealing.


Go Bee's and Bikes!

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Courtesy and ettiquette would dictate that you ride single file or two abreast while in traffic or on a street with cars. "Dem dare first picture" shows riders in the oncoming traffic lane and both pictures show riders spread out more than two across.

I agree, this is a great group but they could do more to be ambassadors for cyclists instead of a nuissance to the community.

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More people on bikes means less cars on the road, less pollution from exhaust, less drunk drivers ( I say this because it states the destination of the Bees as a pub so I assume they will drink, which is fine) all of which are good things!! I hope the Bees carry with them a sense of stewardship and respect for the city and have a greater philosophy then putting on cute black an yellow tshirt and going to a bar.. Carry with them some of the ideals that cycling stands for with along with sense of environmentalism. Hopefully some of them will or are commuters and not just using their bikes to get to the bar. However if they are only using their bikes to get to the bar THAT IS ALSO A VERY GOOD THING!

http://newvilleny.blogspot.com/

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Bicycling is good for environment? Very debatable . . .

http://opim.wharton.upenn.edu/~ulrich/documents/ulrich-cycling-enviro-jul06.pdf

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so i should stop exercising to die earlier and eat less?

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Yes, this is the bizarre idea that "the best thing you can do for the planet is to commit suicide", which completely ignores the fact that almost all environmentalists want to improve the environment not just for it's own sake but so that we and our descendants can continue to enjoy it.

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yes

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how much you want to bet that the study cited by omonohan was funded by general motors?

now that i think about the littering accusation, it is pretty ridiculous. try to pedal and steer a bike in traffic and consume packaged food at the same time. you can't steer with your knees the way some idiot drivers do, you can't set the meal down anywhere, and if you have traditional caliper brakes, you need both hands free to brake.

foot races generate far more litter per capita than group bicycle rides.

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Good point zarbo. The pics are of the bees riding with traffic, and stopped at a red light. Preeettttyy crazy riders.. abiding by those laws

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I SAW SOME BEES WITHOUT PANTS ON AT HARDWARE!

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Ha... One thing BR forgot to mention about the bee's...its naked in, naked out.

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The same people who complain about cyclist are the same people mashing their gas pedals to the floor driving on emotions blaming their thirty second wait in traffic on a cyclist who is forced into the streets by lack of bike lanes. Grad94 nicely put!
So to Eisenbart who suggests a "crackdown" I would agree on one point a crackdown on littering. But then I ask how do you know if a single member of this group has ever littered? You can not and should not make that statement as you and I do not know the actions of these individuals. If you watch the news you would realize the BPD is busy with ACTUAL crackdowns. The kind involving shootings, hard drugs and violence. If you categorize a group of cyclists visiting a bar in this same capacity I fear for your own sense of security.
And like it or not Garbo you are making a statement by choosing to ride a bike. Whether your statement is I am a guy in a yellow and black tshirt drunk on a bicycle or your statement is I am a guy in a yellow and black tshirt drunk on a bicycle who cares about things like pollution and bettering the city makes a huge difference! So which is it?
http://newvilleny.blogspot.com/

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To be completely honest, Neither... I haven't earned my stripes yet ;-D and I ride a bike for MYSELF. Getting off my ass and riding a bike changed my life. 50 Pounds lost in 6 months. I owe my life to my bike.


But let's concentrate on the Bee's here and all this BUZZZZ they are creating!!! :-D

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very cute.. anything more? Bees earning stripes its a cute theme to riding and I am sure it is fun.
I am challenging the Bees. I am asking them to stand for something! Is it to much to ask to draw something good from this? It is good they ride for many reasons. I would love it if one of the comments simply said something like. We ride so we dont have to drive home drunk or we ride for our health and have a drink at the end! That would be a very good thing.

Zarbo you have earned your stripes. Anyone who can benefit their health by riding is ok with me.

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lets end this on that positive note. U guys haven't heard abt the angry bee's sister group THE BEE KEEPERS. next chapter

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I love any movement that attracts people to bicycles, present one included. Be it any one of the many motives to love a bicycle: reduced carbon footprint, better health, fun, etc. Wish it didn't always deliniate into drinking though. I'll embrace it regardless of this, as it seems to make it more fun/palatable for those involved, but the drinking isn't directly related to bike culture in some inextricable way...and I wish more of cycling's critics understood this!

One point in defense of cycling: Bills and Sabres games certainly create just as much reckless behavior, no? I think it's just part of human nature with forms of mass entertainment. It's not hipsters, or fixies, or any other scapegoat...it's humanity!

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I don’t know it they were actual bees or friends of the hive but two Wednesdays ago it seems that two guys wandered back to the hive and piled all the porch furniture against the front door and broke a neighbors fence post before getting chased. This was at 4:30 AM.

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Personally I never have issues with regular bicyclists, it's the drunk hobos and punk kids that I see as more of a problem.

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Do any of these "cyclists" have a criminal record??
I think we should have a curfew to prevent any bicycling after the street lights are on.

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sure, as long as we do the same for "drivers" who have criminal records.

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TheRicker, Eisenbart there is no criminal element to cycling. On the contrary many of us see environmental, health and many other benefits from cycling. The cyclists who choose to ride drunk are only putting themselves at risk it is their freedom of choice. Do not fear them.
http://newvilleny.blogspot.com/

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Actually I was being facetious...I guess no one got my reference to the City Grill shooting. har..har.....har.

So serious, these cyclists.

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Typical. You can't ride your bicycle to a bar without everybody introducing politics and over-worded under-thought opinions.

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What the fuck.... can you people not read?

I never said I was against people cycling. I never said I am against people getting together to enjoy cycling and have a few at a bar even.

I am against people getting drunk and taking their car or bike on the road where they are a harm to themselves and to others. There have been similar candy coated stories about other bike even/groups that are simply not true. And since this one starts and ends at a bar I doubt its any different. I draw these generalizations from witnessing and even participating under the ruse that these groups are pro cycling. They are not.

@slowrollin99, you know a friend of mine once said that the people who drag race out in Clarence were not hurting anyone and asked why I had such a problem with it. I'm sure drunk drivers also have similar rationalizations that they are only putting themselves at risk. It simply is not true and a dumb thing to say since we all share the road.

I never thought I would get so much heat for simply saying that if you are drunk, stoned, or breaking traffic laws you shouldn't be on the road.

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Can you walk?

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Eisenbart I was referring to your "crack down" comment. I agree being drunk in public makes you a liability. On a bike you are really only putting yourself at risk, I stand by that. I dont buy into your argument that others are injured by out of control cyclists... You simply cannot tell me that a two ton drag racing machine reaching speeds well over that of a bicycle with a drunk behind the wheel poses the same threat as a 150lb kid on a bike driving out of control. BOth are dangerous I agree but I prefer they cycle.
I personally dont drive or ride drunk. A large part of social life in proximity to a college campus anywhere in this country will take the form of drinking in bars. I would like to think we could find entertainment and enjoyment in other ways and if you can find that solution then great! I do not see any other benefit from such groups other than they are not DRIVING drunk which is much much more dangerous. I agree with your defense but not your initial statements. Again I believe the BPD are busy fighting real crime.. If you insist on living in a shell that is fine. The truth is that risk surrounds us every time we set out on the road. I prefer to take my threats in form of a bicycle.

TheRicker. You are an ignorant fool for attempting to find any humor in what happened at city grill. A damn fool.

MadNigel. I think what is typical is your I dont give a Fuck attitude. I just want to ride my bike to the bar... Dweeb

replied to Eisenbart
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Be careful when you ask for a crackdown because this is how the BPD has responded in the past: http://www.mediastudy.com/articles/av5-27-04.html

Yes, drunk people should be kept off of bikes. I hope that these riders have the sense to walk their bikes back home if they feel unable to navigate on two wheels. I think that for the lack of DWI bike accidents in the headlines, we can trust that riders in Buffalo are doing just that: being responsible.
Now, am I naive enough to assume that ALL of them are? Absolutely not. I've been on the midnight bike ride, I know how it is. Though, somehow, those riders manage to make it home unharmed.
But I think when the city is still not really prepared to treat bicyclists as members of traffic, when a few people who don't know how to follow the rules of the road ruin it for other bicyclists and motorists, when there's roughly three or four bike lanes in all of the city that don't even intersect, you have to stop and think about what you're asking. It's not that easy. People have been demanding Buffalo be a bike friendly city for years and years, and the one thing we've learned is that it's been slow to adapt. Most of the streets are in reprehensible shape for cars, let alone for bikes. Hows about trusting that not every group of bicyclists is not a rowdy gaggle of drunken kids looking to steal your mailbox, and thinking instead that maybe it's a group of responsible adults who want to have fun with a healthy hobby.

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Wow Ann the media study you cite by Niman really illustrates just how far we have come since 2004.

It is a shame that some would prefer to "crack down" or set curfews on cyclists. I hope they read the case study. Some will find enjoyment from it others will be disgusted.

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Ouch, folks sure get riled up about a simple two-wheeled contraption -- hard to figure.

So many assumptions, so many attitudes, and so much hyperbole. Let the folks ride their damn bikes, enjoy a very cool and ride-able city, and enjoy a few cold ones with new / old friends.

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Their just bitter because they get free parking.

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