City August 23, 2010 11:30 PM

True Cities and Shadow Cities

True Cities and Shadow Cities

As many cities, particularly smaller industrial ones, continue to struggle with the loss of manufacturing jobs, people wonder how or if these places will come back and again become economically prosperous. I think the potential for economic renewal at least partly depends on whether or not a place is a true city or a shadow city. What do I mean by that?

Here is one way I categorize the economic life of cities. One can divide companies into three types:

  1. Local goods and services. These are things like banks, grocery stores, dry cleaners, coffee shops, plumbers, etc. that exist in order to provide goods and services to the people who live in a place.
  2. Branch plant or departmental export. These are things like raising wheat, building brake components for cars, certain types of laboratory work, or any other type of specialized product that exists as a captive service or commodity to satisfy particularized demand from elsewhere. They are often specialized and routinized.
  3. Indigenous exports/industry. These are pieces of the production puzzle, often creative or innovative, that either serve a broad and diverse market or create markets. This could be anything from a biotech firm to a hedge fund to a specialty bike manufacturer to an internet company to a specialty manufacturing concern to a Fortune 500 headquarters. These types of businesses constitute the independent economic life force in a city.

Every city has local goods and services type industries. Many of them have other companies as well, but the kind of companies and industries is important. In particular, we need to distinguish between types 2 and 3. Consider the case of Flint, Michigan. This town was extremely prosperous at one time as GM located huge numbers of auto factories there. But these factories existed only to the extent that they served a need for GM. Once they no longer served that need, they were gone. Flint, in a sense, was not a true city. It was a shadow city that existed because Detroit needed it and wanted it to. Flint was a shadow cast by Detroit. Once Detroit no longer needed it, Flint began to wither. And because it did not have the independent economic life force that comes from having significant internally generated production and indigenous exports - and no culture of even trying to - it has had a hard time figuring out how to revive its fortunes.

DSC_0279c.JPGContrast Flint with Chicago. Chicago not only was a location of many branch plant operations, it had significant indigenous industry. Just like Flint, most of its manufacturing got wiped out. But it had other things to fall back on. Now, many of those local indigenous industries got wiped out too. That's the nature of creative destruction. But what Chicago had from these was a legacy of creating new indigenous industries and a mindset that viewed the city as controlling its own fate. This has allowed Chicago to renew itself despite an epic manufacturing collapse. Chicago has economic life force apart from companies in Detroit, Tokyo, or elsewhere deciding to locate a plant there. It is a true city.

Or contrast with Indianapolis. It's a branch plant town to be sure in many ways. There are few local large companies headquartered there. But Indianapolis has significant internally generated economic life as well. It has a tourism and sports industry, it has the motorsport cluster, it has significant life sciences companies like Lilly and Dow Agro Sciences that didn't just locate a facility there because it was convenient. It has technology startups like Exact Target and Angie's List. What's notable is how many of these companies can generate either serial entrepeneurism or spin-offs. Chris Baggot left Exact Target to found Compendium Blogware. Scott Jones didn't just sit around counting his money after inventing voice mail, he has started several companies since. Not all of these will be successful, of course. But the key is that many of them can be started and sustain their operations without having to convince a company in a far away place to locate there. They are local, independent sources of production. They are also often creative companies that are building new and innovative products and services.

For Flint, Chicago or Indianapolis we could substitute in innumerable other cities.

Cities that are capable of generating this type of internal economic life force have a much greater chance at adapting to the new economy than the ones that do not. Unfortunately, many small manufacturing cities were really just branch plant towns that were there to take advantage of a certain need at a certain point in time. But they were almost totally dependent on outside actors to sustain their economic life force. Their animating power was elsewhere. That's not to say that they don't have assets like a skilled labor force or good infrastructure. But they are only able to deploy them profitably to the extent that economic forces elsewhere dictate.

DSC_0038c.JPGIt comes as no surprise that these types of "shadow cities" are often victims of macroeconomic forces they can't influence or even sometimes understand. We've seen that for sure in the Midwest as our agricultural and manufacturing industries have gotten pummeled by structural economic changes and vast increases in productivity. But even if a place is successful today, to the extent that it either overspecializes or is dependent on outside forces to animate its economy, it is living on borrowed time.

To be successful, a city needs to be a true city, one that has a healthy and diverse mixture of businesses, and with a combination of all three types of companies. It simply must have some capacity for internally generating economic life, innovation, and indigenous exports. Starting or restarting that economic fire is the key to turning around struggling cities. Without it, they are only going to be waiting for their number of come up in the site selection lottery, and slowing shrinking away over time.

You'll notice one big difference between Flint and Chicago/Indy is size. It strikes me that in most cases there's a certain minimum scale or critical mass you need to achieve in order to operate as a true city. My rule of thumb is a metro area population of one million or more. There are cities below that which are successful, but mostly they seem to be college towns or satellites of bigger cities. If you look at the Rust Belt, there are plenty of one million plus cities that are beating national averages or otherwise doing well in some measurable degree, but other than college towns, there aren't many below that. The cold reality may be that the future isn't that bright for most of those places. The question is, how do we address that from a policy perspective? In my view, a key part of this is linking them into broader metropolitan economies, but that's a topic for a future post.

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Aaron M. Renn is a urban policy analyst and consultant based in Chicago. His writings appear at his blog, The Urbanophile, and in other publications.

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Nice pice, I enjoyed it. I'll be giving it another read.

Just went to Detroit this weekend. What a rough town. But a fun one, too. The effect of having a major league baseball team is incredible, granted there are stark population differences between Buff and D. The restaurants around the ballpark could count on crowds on no less than 81 nights. Contrast that to football (8) and hockey (41).

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you mean contrast that to buffalo football (7) :(

I agree - interesting piece. I'm not convinced though...I see your definition of "shadow" v. "true" as being comparable to, say, a publicly traded company that makes 1 type of computer chip v. a large conglomerate. The former could become obsolete and bankrupt much much easier than the later, but they're still both companies. Calling the computer chip maker a "shadow" company is just as absurd as calling a small city a "shadow" city because it relies primarily on a single industry or the consumption of other cities. The distinction just doesn't make sense to me.

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Great article.

So then would Buffalo fall as a shadow city because we died once we stopped being a major transportation hub for Great Lakes goods?

Or are we in limbo between being a shadow and a true city with some companies still keeping their headquarters in Buffalo?

Orrrr am I missing the point?

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Greg>"would Buffalo fall as a shadow city because we died once we stopped being a major transportation hub for Great Lakes goods?"

While the author doesn't discuss Buffalo, it sounds like what you wrote applies his basic idea. But I don't think he's saying it would have had to be that way. One area he praises, Indianapolis, never had Great Lakes shipping in the first place, or even a major canal.

So, it's an interesting question why much of Indiana seems to have been attracting and growing businesses more than Upstate NY the past few decades. Bini's point about taxes is likely one factor. Maybe union strength is another. Some of it might be just luck or things that have no provable explanation.

His wording isn't what I'd use (dead vs living, "true city" vs shadow). Areas like Buffalo or even Detroit aren't dead, and there's nothing not true about them.

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Places like Buffalo and Detroit are true, they're real. There's just not enough going on for them to be true as cities

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I still don't see how the word true relates to how much is going on. Then would you say most cities aren't true cities? It just seems like a meaningless descriptor. If people mean big or growing, why not just say that?

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Nice write-up. BTW- almost looks like tinted glass going up on the HSBC tower in the first pic...interesting capture of steam

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Having the headquarters of a Fortune 500 firm makes a huge difference.

Keeping at least one major local bank makes a huge difference.

Having excellent air and rail connections makes a huge difference

Having a business climate that rewards innovation and organic growth makes a huge difference.

Having a well-trained or well educated workforce makes a huge difference.

Buffalo won't succeed unless it can meet the above and currently, that picture is mixed. Maybe Buffalo has enough positive metrics to stay pretty much where it is. The rest is up to fate and Albany...and right now, I would place all of my bets on fate.

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While I can't go as far as betting on fate, I tend to agree with your comments 'Sony'.
It really doesn't have to be so bleak though. It's the political climate that has to change.
Hopefully there is a big turnout for voting this election year. I think everyone saw first hand, live and current, how the political structure of Buffalo can ruin development projects (ie; Basspro, etc...). While other cities 'Rise' out of the rust belt, Buffalo for some reason (most of us know that reason), wishes to stay in it to benefit the select few insiders.
Sort of makes you think about this website's title, and what would be more accurate.
But again, it doesn't have to be this way.

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Dph>"While other cities 'Rise' out of the rust belt, Buffalo for some reason (most of us know that reason), wishes to stay in it to benefit the select few insiders."

What rust belt communities have "risen" since the 1970s? Most of the cities I can think of, both large and small, struggle from long term population loss and slow job creation just like Buffalo.

I do agree with you that many of Buffalo's (and the rust belt's)problems are a matter of poor choices and not fate. Therefore the solution to those problems are a matter of choice as well. Getting everybody to agree on those choices and executing them is the hard part.

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Agreed - the only Rust Belt city that seems to be doing reasonably well nowadays is Chicago, which arguably was never a true Rust Belt city.

Cleveland and Pittsburgh have had some positive developments, but both are still losing population at a faster rate than Buffalo.

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Equating population growth with economic growth can be a dangerous assumption. Even though Pittsburgh was a big population loser, the MSA has one of the highest concentration of college-educated young adults:
http://www.pitt.edu/news2010/Figure-2.pdf
http://www.pitt.edu/news2010/Figure-4.pdf
There has also be a marketed increased in per capita income, as opposed to traditional job growth. These are the sort of metrics that become important in an increasingly knowledge-based economy.

Cities like Buffalo, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh all have similar resources to leverage as they restructure for the new economy that unfortunately smaller cities, like Flint and Youngstown, lack. I'm interested to see what this next decade will bring our Great Lake cities.

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ilubpitbulls> What rust belt communities have "risen" since the 1970s? Most of the cities I can think of, both large and small, struggle from long term population loss and slow job creation just like Buffalo.

Columbus, Indianapolis, and Grand Rapids. The South Bend and Fort Wayne metros have been growing slowly through the past few decades; they're holding steady. The traditional college towns all seem to be doing well; Ithaca, Ann Arbor, and State College. The Allentown-Bethlehem area recovered quite nicely from the mill closures of the 1980s.

Also remember the Rochester area was still on the rise into the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s, slipping in the past decade thanks in part to major missteps by Kodak and Xerox. We may think that Rochester is just another downtrodden Upstate city, but until recently it was considered an outpost of prosperity in the eastern Rust Belt.

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Yes Indy and Columbus are great examples of successful rust belt cities. They are living proof of locals making the right choices (metro govt, diversified economies etc)and having a better future as a result.

What I had in mind when I said "rising" was a community that experienced similar adversity to places like Buffalo or Flint and rebounded to the point where they were growing population. Some places, Buffalo included, have made significant progress but they still have more people choosing to leave than stay.

Probably the best example of that would be the Allentown-Bethlehem region. Despite being on that "dead cities" list they are growing (slowly) as a metro and in the cities proper. That certainly is encouraging for other RB communities. Thanks for pointing that out.

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what an excellent srticle! it explains what is wrong with using our limited resources to bribe companies (bass pro or whoever else) into coming here. sure, its nice to have yahoo! in lockport.

but it's like putting all your eggs into the same basket that broke them last time. as renn argues, if your economy is based on renting economic players (because they stay or leave at their own convenience) instead in creating them, you get flint, mi:

"...because it did not have the independent economic life force that comes from having significant internally generated production and indigenous exports - and no culture of even trying to - it has had a hard time figuring out how to revive its fortunes."

for buffalo's sake, i hope everyone in the alphabet soup of economic development agencies reads this essay and junks the bribery strategy. start seeing what is already trying to sprout on its own here and water that garden!

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Sure you could take a water the garden approach v. bringing in leftover crops from another area. But to do so, you need to look at the soil conditions for the area (taxes and labor regulations) and the lack of seeds (entrepreneurs) and be honest about them.

I would love to see a list of local companies that people feel need the water in comparison to bringing in outside firms. Not saying they do not exist but if people want to have an actual conversation and use Bass Pro as a company that SHOULD NOT get money...I think it is only fair to point out the local firms that SHOULD.

Another point to consider when people want to discuss the removal of IDA money is First Niagara. They are are company on the rise and they now call Buffalo home. However, the reason they call Buffalo home is because the Niagara County Industrial Development Agency used the same fiscal prudence that others are calling for IDAs in Erie County to use.

In 2007, they were turned down for $200k in breaks to upgrade a data center. The reasoning at the time was First Niagara was awarded a break on their property taxes in 1997.

I wonder how Niagara County feels now about using fiscal prudence with First Niagara?

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This was a very good read but I tend to disagree that cities ares somehow more "city" if they are larger, healthier, or more diverse. Despite obvious decline, many people choose to live in "shadow" communities like Flint and as long as that is the case they are still cities. Smaller and declining cities but cities nevertheless. NYC is a growing, diverse, interesting, dynamic, etc city but it is no more or less of a city than Buffalo, Flint, or Jamestown.

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The problem with lists like that which look at declining city populations to determine "city death" is that they give the impression that everyone is moving away from these place because there are no jobs left, etc. That ignores the reality that, for example, Erie County's population is just about the same now as it was in 1950. The apparent death of the city is just a measure of how we've spread ourselves out so much more thinly.

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Except that every other healthy city has added a great deal of population in the past 60 years. The fact that Erie County hasn't lost much population in the past six decades, while the population of its urban center has been cut in half, is hardly reason to celebrate.

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I'm not saying it's reason to celebrate. I'm saying that people read these kinds of stories and think "Wow, 50% of the population of Buffalo lost their manufacturing jobs and moved south." And that's simply not the case.

And as long as we're talking about "dying cities" it's worth noticing that Chicago itself has lost almost 800,000 people (almost the entire population of Erie County!) since 1950. Is Chicago a dying city? Is it healthy? I've been there twice and I really liked it and thought it was vibrant and urban, but I also saw the devastated South Side as my train came through the city, and I could see that they have even worse problems to deal with than Buffalo.

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Chicago's metropolitan area in 1950 had 6.8 million people. It now has 9.7 million people. So I would answer your question with a "no." It's not dying. Buffalo, on the other hand, has seen it's population shrink dramatically since 1950, while its metropolitan area has seen no growth in more than half a century. So I think the question of whether or not Buffalo is dying is a bit more difficult to answer.

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for what it's worth, erie county population peaked at 1970 with 1,113,491 persons. in 2000 it was down to 950,265.

this is just a more recent peak and fall than buffalo, which is down to its 1890 population level.

http://www.buffaloah.com/h/bflopop.html

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I think that we should continue rebuilind Buffalo with our own homegrown companies as much as possible. Support local business. The WNY economy is increasingly becoming a services industry. We should give incentives to local companies to expand rather than national companies to squat here for 20 years then leave.

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What companies?

Who are the local grown entrepreneurs that are getting ignored? What businesses that have a real shot and becoming an anchor company are not getting a fair shake?

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Chicago is a pretty amazing city. For me it has it all,a great urban center, transporation, diverse ethinic neihborhoods and food, great parks and recreation, city pride, four distinct seasons, sports and culture, tourism, architecture,and a pretty solid liviabilty. Of course like any place there is curupt government and crime, but Chicago has always seemed to dream big and deliver big. It just might be "America's City" Attend a Cubs game sometime to really experience the pride and tradition of a city. There is simply no pro sports experience quite like it, or swim laps in Lake Michigan along America's most impressive cityscape.

If Buffalo could just take a page from Chicago's game plan we would be closer to a "true" city.

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I too was in chicago recently, the truth is that city is much larger and was built to be from the start. Not only is the city itself larger but almost all the first ring suburbs are industrial warehouses/factories and apartment buildings. Buffalo doesn't even have a single 3 lane road through the city (which I witnessed countless ones in cleveland and chicago). Sadly we dont have the infastructure to be on this level.

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That isn't true. Buffalo has the infrastructure to support a city double its size. This is the reason why you can get anywhere in 20 mins.

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"Sadly we dont have the infastructure to be on this level."

Size doesn't matter THAT much - certainly not the 3 lane road thing you mention. Your comment is similar to the guy who was depressed because Buffalo probably won't get a 40 story building in the next 20 years. Who cares?! Go ask detroit about how much massive highways or rows of warehouses are worth.

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Perhaps it doesn't mean anything, but in reality, it is depressing. Buffalo is one of the only "major league" cities that does not have a single modern sky scraper. When people visit, thinking that Buffalo is going to at least appear like Pittsburgh, or Cincinatti, or Cleveland, or Columbus, they are taken back that our metropolis resembles somthing more of Harrisburg, PA, or Flint, MI. In fact, the skyline hasn't changed significantly in the past 20 or years. It may not mean anything, but is depressing, no?

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Perhaps the problem is in your thinking of Buffalo as one of the "major league" cities. The reality is that we may be more on par with Harrisburg than Pittsburg.

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Yes, but Buffalo has professional sports teams and a good many people in Western New York, some of whom have never experienced other cities, have a false sense that Buffalo is relevant as a major city. It is with these blinders on that concepts like Bass Pro are sold to the area (as though a store will somehow fix the economic ills of an entire region).

Before our leaders think of more ways for the people of Western NY to spend their hard earned income, perhaps they should focus instead on strategies to attract industry, reverse the population decline and to retain college graduates with quality high paying jobs. Otherwise, sadly, Buffalo will remain more on par with Harrisburg than Pittsburg. Sad. Very Sad.

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"Buffalo doesn't even have a single 3 lane road through the city."

I consider that a blessing. Cities were made for people, not cars.

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By the end of the year it is very possible that Buffalo, NY will house two the HQ's of top 25 banks in the US along with the possible relocation of HSBC jobs to WNY.

It will be the job of the mayor, city and county officals to accomidate these new larger companies to ensure that at the end of all of the mergers and moves that Buffalo is on the brink of a major turn around.

The recession made the rest of the country take 5 steps back we need to take steps forward in this vacuum before it closes!

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It would be nice to be home to Fortune 500 corporations. But Rochester's distinction as home to Kodak and Bausch and Lomb and the founding location of the Xerox corp. hasn't prevented them from sliding much as Buffalo has.

Taxes are the biggest impediment to attracting corporate headquarters. Buffalo's reputation for weather and rust don't help any, our national reputation is horrible. Our utility costs are high and that hurts. But taxes are the biggest chunk of the equation impeding our growth.

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How often do companies really get "attracted" to relocate to another city based on taxes or other factors? My impression is that most corporate headquarters are where they are because the company was founded (or moved there very early on) and grew there.

How often does a company like say, In-N-Out Burger, decide to move their corporate headquarters from the Los Angeles metro area (where it was founded) to, say, Indianapolis, just because Indianapolis has lower taxes and offered them a big tax incentive package?

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ask National Gypsum or Bell Aerospace, two large Buffalo born and bred companies that high tailed it out of Buffalo for the sunbelt during my lifetime. I can't recall the names of others which have left, but my memory insists there were a number (Wells Cargo was long before my time). Maybe some others could fill in some more blanks.

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I couldn't find any info about why National Gypsum moved to Dallas, but I believe Bell Aerospace remained in Buffalo until after it was purchased by Textron. Textron is headquartered in Providence, essentially where it was founded.

I guess there are other examples as well. Trico moved to Rochester Hills, Michigan, though I am not familiar with the circumstances behind that move.

Still, I prefer the "grow your own" approach than "attract from elsewhere". Companies that were founded by locals are more likely to be better corporate citizens than companies that are already demonstrated mercenaries willing to abandon a city for a shinier one.

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We were on the losing end of M&A.

However like I said in my previous post we were on the winning end of an M&A with First Niagara. Look up the outcry in the New Haven papers. If M&T gets controlling rights to Soverign Bank that will be the same thing.

We have been on the bad end of mergers (those listed above) HSBC, Oxy, Carborundum, American Brass, etc...

Now we have a chance to the on the winning side!

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I would not count your chickens on M&T.

Robert Wilmers is not a beloved man in Buffalo and a lot of the people on BRO have made it know that they feel Buffalo would be better off without 'his kind' and they may just get that wish.

There is a very strong change that M&T calls Baltimore home in the near future.


Find it funny how people bash those bastard business elite but then brag about what they build for some self justification. Not you but others...


The reality is not one of the 3 banks is a lock to the region. HSBC already cleared out the executives in the 90s. As M&T and First Niagara grow, there is going to be even more pressure to relocate to other areas like NYC or Baltimore.

There is no trend that shows Buffalo based companies grown and staying. There is a trend of the opposite.

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Good article. I agree with Biniszkiewicz in that taxes are a major reason why companies choose to locate elsewhere.

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This site was more interesting when people vented their true FRUSTRATION on how bad this city is.

AS I SAID SOOO MANY TIMES:

1.) NO BASS PRO

2.) NO STATLER

3.) NO BASHAR ISSA HIGH RISE

4.) NO BRIDGE

5.) NO NOTHING

GET WITH THE PROGRAM BUFFALO - YOUR POLITICIANS ARE HOLDING YOU HOSTAGE!

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So where does a city like Schenectady fit on this overly simplistic choice?

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what a coincidence. this link was in my email recently.

"Instead of luring outside corporations with promises of tax breaks and lax standards for labor and environmental practices, the Evergreen strategy develops home-grown worker-owned enterprises that can offer ongoing services to anchor
institutions."

http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/the-new-economy/clevelands-worker-owned-boom

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The Evergreen strategy is contingent on $5M in grants and donations from national business, local foundations, banks, and the Federal Government. The Evergreen Cooperative Development Fund expects to raise another $10M - $12M through similar agencies, and then plans on leveraging the $15M to raise an additional $40M to fund their endowment.

The Evergreen laundry received $750,000 from the Evergreen fund, the laundry is obligated to pay 10% of profits back to the Evergreen Fund for future development in other cooperatives. Employees of these businesses are required to purchase equity in the company, at a rate of %.50 per hour for their first 3 years of employment (after probation). This is roughly a $3,000 investment, per employee. This is primarily a feel-good investment, as most employees will see very little return on their investment after the company pays back the Evergreen Fund and other obligations. That said, they will probably accrue approximately $65,000 in on-paper equity during their time working for the Evergreen Laundry.

Right now, the cooperatives are securing business from local institutions like hospitals and the University because they circumvent the established bid process. This is something that would have benefited Buffalo Car Share in their appeal to UB. If expected to play on a level playing field with other businesses, then it is predicted that the model for cooperatives is largely unsustainable due to the excessively high wages for employees ($17 per hour compared to $9 for competitors) and heavily subsidized start-up costs.

It is a good model for a desperate community that is unable to attract a large number of jobs through traditional businesses and employers. In a city like Cleveland, much like Buffalo, the largest employer is the Government, this is just an extension of that system.

It does leave me wondering about the other businesses that are being displaced or closed as a result of the inability to compete on-par with the Cooperatives?

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Chicago is an amazing city. Geographically and (somewhat) culturally, it reminds me a lot of Buffalo. It's what Buffalo has the potential to become. Take a look at Chicago's waterfront and see what a real waterfront should look like! Here's a hint: It didn't start with Bass Pro. It's time for our city officials to learn from cities like Chicago, Montreal, Toronto, and Minneapolis/ St. Paul. City officials should ask themselves: What do these cities have that Buffalo doesn't? How do we get that?

Oh, and can we PLEASE build the damn bridge already? It's getting ridiculous now.

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I believe it is illegal to have private investment directly on Chicago's waterfront. Most of it is 100% dedicated to accessable public space...beaches, parks, Navy Pier, marinas, Museums, Soldier Field. It's is indescrible how impressive the waterfront is there and even more impressive is how many residents use it year round. I agree with another post, Chicago feels like Buffalo, just grander. And size does not matter, we do not need 4M people to have the amentities I am speaking of, we have Lake Erie, we have parks, we have architecture, we just have not had the drive and passion do be do the very best with what we have.

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Are other cities in 247WallSt's list of top 10 dead cities also Shadow Cities? I don't consider Buffalo a Shadow City.

Flint was #6.

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Moved from Bflo to Portland ten years ago...night and day...when I go back to Bflo, it looks like a bombed-out time warp. I follow this site and others because I love Bflo, hoping for a comeback...I see a little progress (downtown apts), but it will take 55-65 years for Bflo to come back at the rate of these little advances. Not convinced it's always "Albany's" or the City Council's fault (perpetual blame takers in WNY). The people of Bflo and their backwards thinking, unwillingness to change is also to blame. I can't believe how many of my friends in Bflo still aren't on the internet! It's unbelievable. Ex:Some of my Bflo friends don't even know you can order movies to be delivered to and watched on your computer! I'd move back if there were jobs. Not asking for much; 50K + bens. There are such jobs in Bflo but not many choices of industry/field like I have here.

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