Real Estate August 28, 2010 9:15 AM

Lafayette Hotel Joins National Register

Lafayette Hotel Joins National Register

The Lafayette Hotel was added to the National Register of Historic Places on August 19.  While the circa-1904 building has been a long-time official city landmark, its listing on the National Register was pushed by developer Rocco Termini.  Termini needs federal preservation tax credits that are available to listed properties to help finance his $35 million reuse plan for the property.  The National Register is administered by the National Park Service, which is part of the U.S. Department of the Interior.

The seven-story hotel may be a bit shabby today, but it has a distinguished past and a potentially bright future if Termini can work his proven magic on the property.  From the Buffalo as an Architectural Museum website:

DSC_0721b.JPGLike a number of hotels and small apartment buildings in Buffalo, the Lafayette Hotel was planned to be ready for the expected influx of visitors at the Pan-American Exposition in 1901. But financial problems delayed the hotel opening until 1904.

A handsome red brick and white terra cotta French Renaissance-style building, it was designed principally by Louise Blanchard Bethune of the respected Buffalo architectural firm of Bethune, Bethune and Fuchs. She was the first professional woman architect in the country, the first female member of the American Institute of Architects, and the first woman to be made a Fellow of the A.I.A.

The National Register of Historic Places is the Nation's official list of cultural resources worthy of preservation. Authorized under the National Historic Preservation Act of 1966, the National Register is part of a national program to coordinate and support public and private efforts to identify, evaluate, and protect our historic and archeological resources. 

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Any word on when renovations will start? This place is the wedding cake of buildings downtown and will be a huge draw. Rocco Termini's one stop wedding plans for the building will be a clear winner. I would still like to see the original lobby instead of the art deco.

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Work will not start until Termini gets the HUGE welfare check from us, the taxpayers. Corporate welfare and cronyism at it's worse. Thank god there is a lawsuit in the wings to stop this project if he does get the welfare grant.

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So i guess every homeowner who is able to deduct their interest and local taxes from their mortgage on their federal returns are also "welfare" recipients. Ditto for anybody who grows or consumes one of the many subsidized crops like corn, soybeans, tobacco etc.

Yes it is fun to put the "welfare" tag on those who receive a subsidy that you may not agree with. The great thing is that just about everybody or everybody's way of life, depends on some form of public subsidy meaning the putdown works on everyone.

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Would someone ask Antoine Thompson, Sam Hoyt, Stachowski, Schimminger or any of the other incumbents where our NYS Star Tax Rebate went? I would like to know if my former property rebate is now financing the get rich development schemes of Rocko Termini and crowd? I cannot prove it but when my tax break disappears and the businessman gets a new tax break, it looks to me like a "quid pro quo." Maybe campaign contributions work for some people but unfortunately not for the homeowner.

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Thompson is probably spending money slated for development on his campaign for state senate.

Accusing Termini of waiting for a "welfare' check is idiodic (sally). ASK THE PEOPLE OF ORCHARD PARK, LANCASTER, CALRENCE ETC HOW MUCH MONEY THEY SPEND OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN...

Maybe then you'll realize why anything not funded by taxpayer money would end up as a huge loss no matter what. Taxpayer money should absolutely pay for this renovation because the majority of people who's taxes will go to the project are the reason why the city and downtown are in such dire straits.

Think logically before you post

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You can't accuse Rocco for properly going about working the system. If you don't like the fact that the government has chosen to help developers re-use buildings that have a historical and cultural significance within their community, then take it up in November when elections hit. The fact of the matter is that just about every project, new, rehab or re-use gets some type of tax credit, tax break or incentive. That's not the developer's fault.

This is going to be an absolutely phenomenal project once it gets going and is finished. The architecture firm Rocco's working with has done some really cool stuff throughout Buffalo

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One step forward... Lets hope that Patterson signs the bill and we can move forward with this project.

I'm suprised the "welfare check" crowd is on today. I would expect them to be at the Glen Beck rally "restoring our liberties" or whatever they are doing today in DC.

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You have it backwards the tea party crowd is anti individual welfare. It's us Liberals that are against corporate greed and taxpayer handouts to businesses. For referwnce see the Bass Pro lawsuit petitioners.

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Indeed. Perhaps the illegal taxes collected from Indian cigarette sales can help pay for the Lafayette to be saved.

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I will try to take some time this week before the primary election. I would like to find out what happened to the Middle Class STAR property tax rebate. If Hoyt is pushing a new tax break for the developers while he is canceling a tax rebate for the middle class homeowners then I think that he should speak publicly about before the primary, not afterward.

While I am waiting I am reminded that my assessment in Buffalo went up this year and my property taxes also went up and will remain up for the future. I am not sure that I want my taxes to fund Rocco's dreams at my expense.

Concerning the STAR property tax rebate, I found this article, http://www.tax.state.ny.us/star/2008/. Apparently the governor and our legislators
( incumbents ) have canceled the rebate.

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Littleacorn>"I am not sure that I want my taxes to fund Rocco's dreams at my expense."

Do you think Rocco, or the rest of the American taxpayer are crazy about subsidizing your "dream" of homeownership?

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What does most of the new development downtown consist of?
Answer: hotel rooms

Do you see any new office buildings going up downtown?
Answer: No, though office space is expanding in the Larkin District.

So who is going to be filling these hotel rooms?

Dont want to kick a dead horse but so many people are complaining of corporate give aways. The role of government is infrastructure and the problem with government is your tax money is going to non-productive patronage and big government civil service unions instead of productive infrastructure ... and the money that is spent on infrastructure is diluted because of sprawl.

The fate of downtown as a retail, residential, office, entertainment, etc..district will not change until at the very least the airport is connected to downtown.

Termini has an excellent record and deserves it. His projects are like resuscitators jump starting dead districts back to life.

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You are at the same time saying hotel rooms are not needed then in the next sentance ssyng Terminal deserves our tax dollars to build more rooms. That is just kookie logic.

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Dear Sally,
Its true that trolleys and light rail and heavy rail mass transit is expensive (though not in Buffalo because Buffalo already has the right of way) but the evidence is overwhelming that infrastructure investment produces multipliers of private sector investment.

Im saying that downtown Buffalo NEEDS that infrastructure investment to make these projects viable longterm.

Im NOT saying existing projects are not needed because I dont know the demographic projections developers used to justify their project.

The person that DOES NOT deserve the tax dollars are the HYATT and MARK V because their single use hotels that supposedly dont achieve full occupancy.

Termini's Lafayette like Avante is mixed use which means Termini can always change the mix to more residential or more office space if hotel occupancy is lower than expected.

Mixed use is what the Statler, Hyatt, Liberty and all other large projects should be. Changing the mix is critical to adjust to changes in downtown.

Make no mistake though...the millions of travelers at the airport, the millions in growth at the Galleria, the millions in development at the Larkin District need to be brought to downtown Buffalo via Light Rail.

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You have to look at the big picture, without this assistance these building would be way to expensive to renovate to NYS's outdated codes and this is not Boston or New York City. Look at the Web building - it could have been a parking lot.
Now take into consideration, renovating old historic buildings is an attractive option than building new, that is proven every time a new development comes on line (AM&A's warehouse, filled-up)at the same time bringing in more people downtown that will add to the critical mass that retailers want. These tax brakes require developers to rent apartments for ten years. When these lofts can all go condo and the tax rates will follow and there is your future payback, basically it is an investment in Buffalo future and well worth my tax dollar. TERMINI ROCKS.

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I am curious: How much money does NYS spend on historic rehab projects? How much in total? How much per taxpayer?

These buildings are more expensive to rehab, generally speaking, than knocking them down and building something modern. Modern structures also usually function more efficiently than old structures. On the one hand, the public, gain something from their rehab. Integrating these aged beauties into our environment enriches, imo. BUT . . .

I am sympathetic to Sally's complaint that the bulk of the benefit from public tax dollars goes to individual developers, the kind of earners who would seem least to need it. Making the rich richer is hardly the ideal use of public resources . . .

Which brings me back to wondering how much it really costs the rest of us. Is it $1/taxpayer/yr? $10? $100? What's the ballpark? Anybody know?

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Bini>"I am sympathetic to Sally's complaint that the bulk of the benefit from public tax dollars goes to individual developers"

Bini, Does this project, and others that qualify for historic tax credits, not suit your personal preferences for development or do you have a problem with direct subsidies in general? I ask because Sally and her crew, based on previous discussions, base their position on their favoring new builds and suburban development but try their best to steer the discussion to the evils of urban subsidies.

If it is the direct government to individual subsidies you have a problem with, you may want to reconsider various things in your day to day life that are also a product of subsidies. If you deduct interest from your mortgage on your taxes, consume products containing corn, or smoke, you are receiving a taxpayer funded benefit similar to the builders taking advantage of historic rehab credits.



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I'm against the mortgage tax deduction and subsidies to farmers, too. And I favor a strong gas tax to fund the whole cost of our road infrastructure.

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If we're going to call it welfare, I'd prefer to at least see the money used on a project that needs the extra help and can benefit the rest of the city by using it.

The plans for the Lafayette can improve the area and the city. It's a better use of taxpayer money than throwing it at some suburban parking lot strip mall office complex that only benefits the company who builds it. That's the kind of waste that got us INTO this mess!

If a developer can afford the project without help, then incentives are the way to go, not handouts. But if it takes a handout to bring a return on the investment, then so be it. Better than stuffing the money under a mattress in an abandoned building where it won't do ANYbody any good...

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As littleacorn said above, NY state has eliminated STAR property tax rebates. Millions of state residents are paying more due to that. Also the state sales tax on clothing was started again in this year's budget deal. Millions of residents will be paying more due to that. Last year NYS raised car registration fees and raised taxes on car insurance.

While broad-based statewide taxes go up and up, some of you want to see even more financial benefits going to a few developers and finance companies they work with.

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It is likely this and other programs steering investment to the city and older burbs would not be necessary if it weren't for longstanding "financial benefits going to a few developers and finance companies they work with" that have steered development to suburban areas.

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i'm much happier seeing tax incentives used to put existing assets back into service, such as the lafayette, than to underwrite redundant infrastructure out in greenfields (i.e. suburban sprawl) that a shrinking population cannot support.

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