City July 8, 2010 5:54 PM

Buffalo Really Really Free Market

Buffalo Really Really Free Market
It really really doesn't get any freer than this. This Saturday, July 10th from 10am to 4pm, at the corner of Vermont and Normal, the second annual BRRFM will set up shop. The interesting thing about this market, as the name implies, is that there is no cost involved with a 'purchase'. See something you like? It's yours. What's the catch? There's no catch other than organizers ask that you bring some things along with you (like books, CDs, clothing, tools, etc.) that you have no need for anymore. You can even bring a song or a dance as an offering if you don't have anything else to give. Even services are welcome - like a massage or a lesson in gardening.

The market is associated with an international movement where caring and sharing is the principle in an alternate gift economy. It's a passive way to remind people that although capitalism is king (at this time), the core values of a simpler life are still alive and well. To think that anything in this day and age is free is almost unthinkable. Especially when there is no corporate marketing attached. Well, here's your chance to see what it's like to visit a Really Really Free Market - the chance doesn't come along that often.

Here's some more info on the BRRFM (first year).

Here's the location.
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Someday we will all be free and naked. Puff, puff, pass.

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Buffalo is getting so trippy-dippy liberal. LOVE IT!!

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Buffalo has always been a liberal city.

In its own way Buffalo has gone off the deep end right along with other liberal Great Lakes cities: Gary, Detroit, Toledo, Cleveland, etc.

But Buffalo and the Great Lakes have been liberal along the lines of provincial socialism of Massachusetts rather than the trippy dippy hippy LA (Hollywood Media types)/SF (porn,pot, castro, haight-ashbury) types.

Infact, much of what suburban types hype as unique and novel about things happening in the city are not liberal at all but a return to basic grass roots community prudence and frugality. Things like urban farms, urban gardens, urban markets, arts, crafts, home businesses, etc etc etc. 50 years ago that wasnt novel. It was normal.

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JQB>"Infact, much of what suburban types hype as unique and novel about things happening in the city are not liberal at all but a return to basic grass roots community prudence and frugality. Things like urban farms, urban gardens, urban markets, arts, crafts, home businesses, etc etc etc. 50 years ago that wasnt novel. It was normal."

Agreed. Im not sure why politics has to be associated with the things you mentioned. You dont have to be liberal or conservative to grow veggies, shop at a farmers market, be frugal etc.

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This is the purist form of free-market capitalism, liberated from the constraints and totalitarian subjugation of the corporatism, our government has become one with. This is the type of thing we need to see. Fascism is our contemporary American economy, we do not live in a free-market anymore, when the price of money is rigged the market is not free. Corporatism/Fascism = Socialism

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There's no such thing as a free lunch.

Unless it's a free bowl of soup at Sugarcity!

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Exactly, and that is why our taxes are too high. Our city has fallen apart because of the govnts involvement in giving away free lunches, because who pays for those lunches-the small and large businesses that had to fold or pack up shop in Buffalo.

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So let me get this straight… being even more liberal is a good thing for buffalo? So we want more public sector jobs and less private sector, so our taxes can go up even more and fewer companies stay and even fewer investment dollars pour in? Explain to me how this progressive thinking works…
If you mean liberal in terms of gay rights, more environmental friendly, etc – then certainly those are good things. However, for anyone who knows city history – at our peak and during our glory days – we were NOT a “progressive” city, but were indeed a very, very free market city. It was a city full of small and large businesses with well proportioned state/local taxes that encouraged the growth of the individual and his/her company. This is the philosophy and the governmental system that can save Buffalo, as well as NYS. However – it is not the “progressive” ideology because it encourages far less public sector involvement, de-taxation, down-sizing and ultimately a return to the philosophy of an honest day’s work for an honest day’s pay… of course the republicans no longer act or think this way so I guess we are doubly screwed! Go bills!

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Could not agree more, you couldn't have said it better, you are exactly right. Buffalo was once great because of the free-market, but when the socialistic/liberal elite and their agenda hi-jacked govnt -now they control both parties- it destroyed and put a permanent stop to what developed and engineered the econommic and cultural wealth of our once great nation. Liberalism has created a nation that produces nothing, now everyone is a slave to a corporation, and now you see suburban shopping malls with nothing but soulless corporate chains. Liberalism and progressivism are great when it comes to civil and social liberties, but not when it comes to maintaining a economically viable city. RON PAUL 2012

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cue the violin...

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pit, maybe they'll borrow a violin from the "ECC/North = sprawl" people. Or are the strings all worn out on those?

aes & rpc, you made good points in response to what was mentioned earlier about capitalism and liberalism. I think a growing number of people are receptive to what you're saying. NY state will keep leaning as left as it's been, but even places like NJ and some EU nations are starting to lean less that way.

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if there had not been a socialistic erie canal, buffalo would not have amounted to much more than batavia or olean.

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Good point, the Erie Canal was a great example of how goverment dollars can be leveraged to encourage private investment. Too bad Republicans have convinced so many Americans that government is the enemy. Anyone with a basic knowledge of history knows this is a false premise and only used to protect those with wealth and power.

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grad94>"if there had not been a socialistic erie canal"

Yes, public ownership of the canal made sense - similar to today's public ownership of highways and major airports. Yay for publicly owned highways - the canals of our time.

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Buffalo was indeed a progressive city, the entire WNY area was known as an area of "free thinkers" and radicals all through the 1800's.
The economic engine that built Buffalo had nothing to do with conservative or liberal leadership, we simply took advantage of our location at the gateway to the great lakes and the west. The Erie Canal and later railroads brought the opportunity for local entreprenuers to thrive. Our decline was the result of modern transportation methods that resulted in the loss of our geographic advantage.

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BRLifer>"Our decline was the result of modern transportation methods that resulted in the loss of our geographic advantage"

WNY/Upstate's relatively slow economy (or decline, to use the word you did) over the past half century had many reasons - some beyond its control.

But now it's a few decades since those transportation changes in Great Lakes regions. In 20 years since 1990, job growth was still negative in metros of Buffalo and Roch, but positive in several other Great Lakes states including Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, and (especially) Wisconsin. Even Erie PA also grew jobs while Buffalo and Roch kept losing them.

Should transportation changes in the mid-1900s still excuse WNY/Upstate adding jobs much slower? Are you saying the worse business environment in NYS has no impact?

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Well let me inject a little economic history. Buffalo was a very profitable city and it did indeed have low personal (well of course Buffalo's golden age was before NYS Personal Income Tax) and low corporate taxes. Why? Where was the tax money coming from?

Answer: The #1 taxpayer for the City of Buffalo was the railroads.

The railroads so much in taxes that the city didnt need to collect that much from other businesses.

The railroads and canals and ports made Buffalo a nexus for natural resources, manufacturing, banking, services, retail, technology, medicine, communications, etc.

When the port and the erie canal dried up because of the Welland Canal, it hurt the railroads which were already hurting from the shift to air and highways. Roughly at the same time NYS decided to stop taxing the railroads trackage.

I harp on it ad nauseum but Buffalonians must understand the keys to its economy lie in 4 key areas:

1) Transportation (which includes all modes such as rail, air, canal, port, light rail, trolley, auto, etc then logistics, then import/export/international trade, customs, distribution, supply chain, warehouse and inventory management, etc.) This is not small beans! Yet we add very littel value to what passes thru our city. Buffalo has descended into little more than a conduit or way station.

2) Communications (back in the day it was the telegraph and mail, then the telephone, then the internet, ecommerce, ebusiness, wireless, high speed networks, optics, etc). This is big stuff and should be big stuff considering Buffalo is an ultra high speed corridor (UB super computers) and international corridor. Yet Buffalo's data and voice is NOT even on par with Rochester.

3) Power Generation, Power Distribution, Power Management. WNY has nuclear, coal, bio-ethanol, bio-diesel, hydro, passive geothermal, wind, etc. Plus we have natural deposits of oil, gas and coal in the Southern Tier of WNY. We should easily be a center for all this 21st century renewable and smart grid stuff. Yet we arent even thinking of it.

4) Material Science. Take a look at nearly all of our technology companies from GreatBatch to Richs and they all are very intensive Material Science companies. Materials are the essence of their next product.

5) Banking and Finance which seems to be the only remaining private sector industry.

Its the same story with Buffalo history and culture.

All the roots are there but the tree has been cut down. Buffalo cannot depend on the Center for Life Sciences in total. We must destroy the government unions and encourage our natural private sectors to regrow.

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WHY ARE YOUR COMMENTS ALWAYS SO LONG??????


Do you like how I did that? Sort of a play on your love affair with caps lock. But seriously, why are your comments always so long? Write a friggin article and submit it if you have so many intelligent and provocative thoughts.

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i've said it before - if your comments are longer than the author's original article, you are a bloghog and need to get your own blog. quit hijacking someone else's blog for your rants and lectures.

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This is one awfully heavy comment thread for a simple swap meet.

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'I harp on it ad nauseum but Buffalonians must understand the keys to its economy lie in 4 key areas....'

While you're lecturing the world on economics, professor, you may want to brush up on your math skills.

P.S. When you have a moment, could you refund my deposit on the Lafayette High School condo you sold me?

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I missed you, Paul. You mean the LaFayette condo from LaLaLand? John still hasn't provided the source of this mysterious idea.

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I had a great time at this event. I scored some medicinal remedies for a reach around.

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