City June 10, 2010 2:55 PM

Buffalo is NOT for sale!

Buffalo is NOT for sale!
By Frits Abell:

I recently had an interesting, downright serendipitous meeting while on a trip to Florida (I am indeed one of those staunch believers in the "there are no coincidences" phenomenon.)

I had just completed my first article for BRO, Architectural Preservation in Buffalo: An "Outsider's" Perspective, (see here) when I met a friend of a friend at a dinner party who was until recently a pastor at a church in Atlanta.

"Interesting" I replied to the introduction. "I happen to have a bone to pick with one of your fellow Atlantan congregations, which is attempting to "preserve" one of my hometown's storied and historic churches, St. Gerard's, by relocating it to Atlanta (lead photo: fixBuffalo). Unfortunately, however, they have already proven that this is an ineffective approach in that they broke one of St. Gerard's statues (of a building they do not yet own, I might add) while in transport."

The pastor was patient with, and receptive to, my rant. He could tell I was damn angry and utterly passionate about the topic.

After a few minutes, he revealed that he has had a long personal history of fighting for the preservation and reuse of shuttered church properties. So, he felt my pain.

He offered that he thought this is an unfortunate outcome for St. Gerard's on many levels. For one, he is adamantly critical of removing a church from a distressed neighborhood, such as in the case of St. Gerard's Kensington and Bailey, as it "further drives a nail in the coffin of an already difficult situation," as he succinctly put it. "Without this building, there is no hope. Instead, they should develop the building into something that could be regenerative for the community-a community center or a charter school, for instance."

His disapproval also comes from the fact that, stylistically, the building simply would not fit in with a suburban surrounding. As a self-confessed aesthete, therefore, this was not sitting well with him. I agreed and said "Renaissance Revival and strip malls tend not to go hand in hand."

Finally, and he started to demonstrate some passion about the topic himself, he felt it set a precedent. "Will Buffalo be viewed as a "city for sale"?" he asked directly. I told him that I think that was already a fait accompli, people had been looting our architecture for years; I cited other examples including the Central Terminal (more of a self-looting) and another East Side church, St. Matthew's (photo below: fixBuffalo), that was purportedly, and coincidentally, pillaged by an Atlantan congregation.

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The pastor then shifted in his seat, seemingly interested to strike a new tone in our conversation. "I understand there may not be a concrete use today, but why not safeguard St. Gerard's for a couple of years until a use can be determined?" he questioned outright. I told  him that he was singing to the choir, but that I had no good explanation. I said that many in our own community are behind the move, because they see this as a binary decision: either use it today or ship it off so it can be appreciated by someone.  I suggested to him that the concept of preservation for future use was starting to get more buy-in in Buffalo, and that I hoped this situation with St. Gerard's was an anomaly. I explained how Buffalo is flourishing with many successful examples of preservation and adaptive reuse of churches: Delaware Methodist (Ani DiFranco's Babeville), Plymouth Methodist Church (Karpeles Manuscript Library), St. Mary of Sorrows (King Urban Life Center), etc.

A good five minutes into our conversation, the good pastor confessed to knowing first-hand the aforementioned Atlantan congregation. He had, in fact, read about the situation in several publications..

Interestingly, and to my surprise, he posited that the congregation in Atlanta is increasingly concerned that they will not ultimately succeed in moving the church, due to rising opposition among Buffalo preservationists and citizens and/or the costs associated with the move, so they might just try to strip the building of all of its worth.

I just about choked on my dinner, and immediately fantasized about boarding a plane for Atlanta to directly address said congregation with a band of Atlanta-based Buffalo expats in toe.

The dinner conversation left me rattled, raw and beguiled: is Buffalo's architecture, in fact, for sale? Will we see more of our assets dismantled in the name of "preservation"?

On one hand, Buffalo's preservation and reuse movement is reaching critical mass, and appears to be only gaining momentum. A new paradigm in the preservation dialogue is being codified, and is further reinforced with each new project; whether it be the work starting on the H.H. Richardson complex or the West Side Victorians that are being brought back to their original glory, many in Buffalo now recognize how vital these assets are to both our past and our future. Some are even starting to see the huge business potential (ie tourism) behind safely mothballing that assets we have...when there is not an immediate use. .

Unfortunately, maybe St. Gerard's and other buildings on Buffalo's East Side are not in the "core zone" and can still be picked-off by scavengers. Can and should we save everything, no? But should we lose a building modeled after the Sistine Chapel? Is Buffalo really for sale?

As my favorite Atlantan celebrity, NeNe, star of Real Housewives of Atlanta would say: "Hell-to-the-no!"

Buffalo is not for sale.

*Thanks to David Torke for the use of his fixBuffalo images

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To clarify a statement made, St. Gerard's is modeled after the bascilica St. Paul Outside-the-Walls & not the Sistine Chapel. St Paul's is a 19th century reconstruction of a 4th century building that was the original papal seat. The term "outside-the-walls" referred to its location being ouside the original fortified walls of Rome, Italy.

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Thanks OnRichmond. I pulled my information from the wrong church, obviously.

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Right on! The bloodletting stops here! Behind this 100%

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Ex-pats are free if they want to chip in enough money to preserve St Gerards here indefinitely. But if our ex-pats won't do that, and fast, then let it move to Georgia instead of rotting apart here. Even one of our local preservation groups admited that's what's very liekly to happen if it stays here.

Many of us who still live here think there's many much better uses for the money, but if ex-pats want to spend their money on it - go for it.

Long distance nagging of us won't change many minds.

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Your name does not do you a disservice, Whatever.

I disagree with you on several levels. For one, we (expats) are at work to be part of the solution/preservation movement-BEN has proven itself to be action-oriented-so, please don't ASSume that we are not. Second, whom am I nagging? I reported on an interesting, coincidental happenstance and piece of information (that the congregation feels increasingly threatened and that there is still hope to save the building), which could be of use to those of us interested to do what we can to save the church. As a resident, I would think you would be more interested in this effort as well. Finally, your thinking on the issue seems, yet again, to fall into a binary mindset: if we cannot fully restore and use the St. Gerard's today, then it should be moved. Well, I would like to see us (yes, hopefully expats and concerned residents)safely mothball the building for future use.

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Fits>"we (expats) are at work to be part of the solution/ preservation movement - BEN has proven itself to be action-oriented-so, please don't ASSume that we are not."

My comment didn't say you haven't taken any actions other than words. If you were ASS-uming that I was thinking it, you were wrong.

Fits>"Second, whom am I nagging?"

It should go without say you're free to express your opinion against the move and others can disagree with you.

That said, your slogan "Buffalo is not for sale" sounds nagging and might be misleading. It sounds nagging in that it condescendingly tells those still here what to do. If private citizens decide to sell something they rightfully own, what business is it of anyone else?
And the slogan may be misleading because St. Gerards isn't being sold, is it? I haven't seen that reported. Isn't it being offered for free?

Should all buildings have to stay in their original city forever because some people say they must? When would it be ok to move something from Buffalo and when isn't it ok? Who decides?

From Preservation Buffalo Niagara's web site:
http://www.preservationbuffaloniagara.org/page/deconstructing-and-moving-st-gerards-church
"...If we work to stop this move, we are likely to see accelerating damage; the roof is already failing and if the building is unheated this winter the plaster will may lose it’s integrity and structural damage could soon follow, along with damage to irreplaceable building components.
Buffalo will also be adding to it’s its growing inventory of vacant, deteriorating churches such as St. Matthew’s on East Ferry Streets just a few blocks from St. Gerard’s. ..."

That's from a leading local preservationist org. Maybe some of your (I won't say nagging) clever "Not for sale!" slogans would change their minds.

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Its just beyond words to comment because these really are anchors for a neighborhood that lead to the desire for people to return.

There are historical markers, architectural markers, community markers, as well as, spiritual markers. Yet they are closed and dismissed without much thought or consideration.

Its things like this that question whether Buffalo has what it takes to set priorities for its future to make it a city for individuals, family and children.

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I hope David Franczyk and the City's preservation body can step up to fight this situation, and I know other groups, such as PBN, are working closely with the Church to avoid future closings, which is great. But, how do we allow an institution, which has operated tax free and is meant to serve the community (which is subsidizing it) just walk away from its duty?

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Frits,

You made my day. I just had this same discussion but with someone much less sympathetic than your pastor. A friend of mine wholeheartedly favors letting the Atlantans run with the church. Nothing I said could dent his cynicism about preserving these irreplaceable structures in Buffalo. Now I am going to print your article and hand deliver it to him.

By the way--I had dinner with your mother in Florida recently. Let's talk.

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I had dinner with Oprah in Chicago recently. Eat your heart out, girl!

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Too bad the people in the Buffalo area see so little value in treasures like this. They are throwing out so much for so little in return. Very sad.

So sad for the Catholic church which has wavered so far from its core mission as evidenced by this situation.

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"The people in the Buffalo area see so little value in treasures like this" What are you talking about? You stupid fool! HOW DARE YOU!! The f'n Roman Catholic Church is the problem here. A what's-the-bottom-line operation to rival Goldman Sachs. Do you expect some "Save St. Gerard's" group to arise in a devastated city with a thousand competing demands on limited resources? GROW UP!

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Yeah... it's definitely the conscious and purposeful abandonment of these structures en masse by residents of Buffalo to blame and not the socio-economic environment in which they are located...

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Too bad times have changed. If only everyone would place the architecture of the metropolitan area where they were born as the primary focus of their their lives there wouldn't be an issue with moving churches.

Unfortunately that's not reality. Sometimes people take stock in their life, and prioritize certain factors such as roe for their graduate degree (for example an architecht who chooses to live in chicago) when they can earn higher salaries in other locations.

It would be just awesome if all of our expats contributed to save all of the neighborhoods they abandonded. Stop *****ing about it. If you really care do something about it, and that means $$$.

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I was baptized in that church and my parents were educated there and were a strong part of that community. I was born on the corner of Bailey and Delavan and went to kindergarten at St. Gerard’s. The Catholic Church should be held responsible. The Vatican should pay for preservation. It's really shocking that the Catholic Church seems to want togetherness until something costs money. Then it's every parish for itself. The wealthy, “darling” parishes (e.g., St. Gregory’s & St. Benedicts, the parishes that priests argue and fight to be assigned to) flourish while the inner-city “parishes of poverty” starve and close. I doubt Catholicism will have the stronghold it once had in American cities...the religion is headed off to plunder the third-world nations, disseminating their archaic ideology. The days of the grand marble churches (except in Rome, of course) seem to be over.

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It is more of the sad state of religion in America. It has turned from following Jesus, walking with the poor, helping the needy to following the dollar and putting up huge megachurches next to huge mega commercial structure. Religion has fallen to American Capitalism and not just Catholicism.

How many followers of Jesus live in gated communities. It's one thing to do that as a personal choice, but it's hypocritical to call yourself christian and abandon those who need his followers the most.

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Agree, Jesus was a bleeding heart liberal, many "christians" don't seem to understand that.

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Jesus was a zombie... seriously, I don't believe that you should drag Jesus into the conversation to validate your political slant. He definitely wasn't a conservative, a democrat, or a republican. Maybe it would be more accurate to say that most bleeding heart liberals act a lot like Jesus and follow his preachings. I am sure this definition won't sit well with the atheistic far left.

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This church, and others like it, would not be rotting away if people still attended church. The Vatican should be held responsible for maintaining a church after the people abandoned it? I tend to agree that churches are anchors for neighborhoods. But it's what goes on inside the church, more than the building itself, that really anchors the community. And losing that is REALLY sad.

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What would Jesus do...

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He sure as hell would not have stripped wads of money from poor parishioners to build oversized, opulent monuments to himself.

Nothing better than people without the financial wherewithal telling those with it what to do, and acting as a special interest to get government to force their wishes on the rest.

Sorry, but I fail to see the value in saving an old church when it's obviously unwanted by those who live in the neighborhood.

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Yes, Jesse you make solid, valid, good points, but let me reiterate, again, Steel's useless Chicago talk: what would Jesus do...

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Jesse>"Nothing better than people without the financial wherewithal telling those with it what to do"

Are you saying only the wealthy should decide community development issues?

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The interior of St Gerards is already gutted. What could they take of ministerial value? a few status from what I can see and molding?

St Gerards, if one looks at the exterior, actually has a shape that could much more easily follow the path of the church on Elmwood was converted to offices (recently had the fire and was remodelled with dormers).

I feel sad for Buffalo but especially sad for the eastside.

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JohnQ: when was the building gutted? Recently or over time? I haven't been over there in a while.....

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This was a beautiful church, but unfortunately it's time has run out. I am a preservationist at heart, but also a realistic person. People talk about mothballing the church until the city and neighborhood comes back to life and improves. If that does happen, it will be many, many years before it does. And if it does, would the people in the neighborhood use it as a church? Religious observation in general is declining. If the church was viable as a (catholic) church, it would have remained open. Unfortunately it wasn't viable. The denominations that are growing are not ones that tend towards "traditional" European style architecture. The costs of maintenance and heating are very high, and the 19th century stained glass and other accoutrements do not blend in well with praise bands and multimedia worship that is popular in the growing evangelical churches.

The neighborhood is not conducive for many of the suggestions given here- loft conversion, office space, etc. It is just not economically viable. Conversion to a charter school would be enormously expensive, and charter schools do not have the money for such a conversion.

The other buildings on the St Gerard's campus are being used for the true mission of the church. Take a look at Gerard Place, (http://www.gerardplace.org/) which is located in the former school and convent next to the church. It runs an excellent program for single-parent homeless families. Some people commenting here have asked "what would Jesus do?" I would say what Gerard Place is doing would be very acceptable and pleasing to Jesus.

The reality is that the city will never be home to over 600,000 people within the city limits, many of who are catholic and religiously observant. It would be much better that this testament of the faith of the original builders of this building be preserved in Georgia if need be, rather than left to rot after a few unheated winters in a cold northern climate, with the eventual and inevitable demolition once the corpse of the structure becomes unsafe. St Mary's on the Hill proves this.

St Gerard's Buffalo, Requiescat in pace. May you find new life in Georgia and carry out your original mission in a new setting.

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Let it go. Create a park.

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the strip-mining of buffalo architecture bothers me, but what bothers me more is the consensus that this neighborhood is worthless, beyond redemption, undeserving, 'too far gone.'

like pronouncing an unconscious patient dead so that you can harvest the organs for more 'deserving' people, which has the desired, dual effect of finishing off the patient and providing you with a 'told you so" rationale.

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Save these treasures...

As someone who is personally involved with the preservation efforts at Corpus Christi Church and Saint Adalbert Basilica, it is a hard road.

What you can do to help is come to events at the churches that are still open and active in Buffalo's struggling neighborhoods . If you are Catholic, consider joining one of these parishes.

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The people who once lived in the area, and once decided to build a place to pray, are gone. It's not any different than their grocery stores, drug stores, 5 & 10s, soda shops, etc - those are gone too, and were no more or less deserving of Hallowed-So-Must-Be-Saved status. It's not a tragedy, it's just the way things are. A cheap copy of an Italian marble church doesn't 'belong' in Buffalo any more than its rebuilt self 'belongs' in Georgia. Let it go.

The stained/leaded glass windows, oak woodwork, and fancy hardware of Buffalo houses have all been 'strip mined' for decades. Buffalo has been for sale for a long time Its public transport system bought up [and quickly run into the ground] by NYC bankers before 1900, for instance. Most other locally-owned institutions followed shortly thereafter.

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There isn't a lot left of St. Gerard church beyond the shell and the memories, in that right it is a symbol of the once vibrant Ken - Bailey neighborhood. I am not a huge fan of moving the church, but I think it would be a bigger shame to watch it rot on its own foundation like Transfiguration, St. Mary on the Hill, and Notre Dame de Lourdes.

I don't blame the R.C. Church for this as much as I blame the shifting sentiment towards religion, the loss of faith in the Catholic Church, and the exodus of population in these once vibrant neighborhoods. I don't think the demolition and relocation of St. Gerard is much different than the demolition of Buffalo Forge or the hundreds of houses that have been demolished in the area. It is a sign of just how low the neighborhood has fallen and how difficult it will be to bring it back in the near future. I don't see St. Gerard being used for offices on Ken - Bailey, because Ken - Bailey is not Elmwood and West Ferry. These two streets are worlds apart.

I don't know if Bob Biniszkiewicz still checks in here, but I would ask him how he would market a place like this if he had to find an occupant today. Is it possible to find a viable and successful tenant that could transform the area, or will it be occupied by another community group or small parish that cannot fill even a fraction of the space.

We need to find a real use for the building. Chances are it will not be a vibrant church again, it probably is in the wrong neighborhood to become a trendy loft or mixed use office, and community groups are spread throughout other vacant landmarks throughout that neighborhood.

Let's brainstorm on what a we could really do with this building, in the next year, to make it worth keeping in Buffalo. It would be a damn shame to watch it become the next St. Mary on the Hill or Church of the Transfiguration.

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Good points sho'nuff-one and all.

Uses: charter school (look what King Urban Life did to that area and mausoleum (someone else's concept)are two that come to mind.

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Thanks... I don't think the footprint is big enough for a charter school. If you look at the other charter schools in the area, they are expanding in order to bring in enough students to pay the bills. It might make an interesting private or special needs school because the reimbursement and tuition would be higher. I am not sure that this would be anyone's first choice for a school, given the relative abundance of other buildings in the area that are more easily converted to a school, or were a school at one point. Mount Saint Joseph's for instance.

Are there examples where an old building was converted to a mausoleum in an urban neighborhood? I haven't heard of any, and I am not sure that this would be a good thing for the neighborhood.

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Some ideas that were bantered around when discussing this with friends last night:

- Community Center (there are 4 within walking distance)

- Community church (small congregations have difficulty paying the bills)

- Office park (vacancies for office and retail space are abundant within a 2 block radius)

- Bank (three have closed within walking distance in the past 2 - 3 years)

- Lofts (intersection is noisy and relatively unsafe)

- African - American history museum (One already exists on Masten)

Some things that might work:
- Center for African American and Urban Studies - partner with UB's Urban Studies, Health and Human Services, Sociology, and African American Studies departments. Create a center of excellence to study urban blight, poverty, the long-term effects of racism on African American culture, the sociology of living in poverty, sociology of gangs and African American culture, etc. Study urban culture at the front lines, this would give students and faculty a satellite office to reach out to the community instead of asking a community of limited means to come to them.
- Problem may be funding from the state and UB; however federal and private grants are available.


- Basketball club. Reinforce the floor and turn this into an inside basketball court, playground, and community play area for local children. This is especially useful in the winter. Similar places exist in the suburbs, with bounce houses and running areas, let's do the same here. I am sure that there are funding sources available if this was sold as a way to fight obesity. (Something similar was done in Cleveland Heights a few years ago).


- Ask the local community what they need and what they would like to see St. Gerard used for. Their answers may surprise us all.

I have not read this entire thesis, but I thought it might be applicable to the discussion.

http://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/35692

I recommend people check it out if you are really interested in the limitations and possibilities for church redevelopment.

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i don't know... this just sort of fits nicely into the western tradition of architecture and the poaching of architectural and archaeological treasures from 'fading' or 'fallen' societies...

really what is the difference between taking obelisks from egypt and putting them in NYC or taking a church from buffalo and putting it in atlanta?

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