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"All We Want To Do Is Brew Our Brains Out"

“All We Want To Do Is Brew Our Brains Out”
At long last Flying Bison is back in operation, and free and clear of the controversy that has kept it shuttered. News traveled fast around the city today, especially in beer circles. This is excellent timing, because further delays would have meant a summer without Flying Bison beer - a scary thought. As it stands now, it looks like FB brews may be available mid-summer. From Tim Herzog, the guy who 'works' at the brewery:

"We got one tractor trailer in today (of hops) and one yesterday -  enough to brew for 30 days at increased capacity (the increased capacity means that the 30 day net would have taken 90 days in the past). We're going to be here all weekend long brewing Buffalo Lager, Aviator, Rusty Chain and then we're starting the seasonals soon. If all goes well our target is to have beer into bars and restaurants before Fourth of July. All of the legal stuff is done, all  charges have been dismissed and now all we want to do is brew our brains out. We're excited to be here in Buffalo brewing beer and we're looking forward to the grand reopening party and BRO readership is all invited... stay tuned for a date. I'm Tim and I work at the brewery... we're not going anywhere and you can stop by and see us anytime!"

www.flyingbisonbrewing.com

www.rustychainbeer.com/

Flying Bison Brewing Co
491 Ontario St
Buffalo, NY 14207-1641
(716) 873-1557
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May 28, 2010

Russell T. Ippolito, Esq.
New York State Attorney General
Main Place Tower, Suite 300A
350 Main Street
Buffalo, NY 14202

Dear Mr. Ippolito:

The following details set forth my belief that multiple violations of New York and Federal law may have been committed by Timothy Herzog, the President and Director of Flying Bison Brewing Company (“FBBC”) located at 491 Ontario Street, Buffalo, NY. Mr. Herzog is attempting to sell the assets of FBBC to Matt Brewing Co., Inc.

Misleading Financial Statements Provided To Investors

By way of background, I am advised that Mr. Herzog incorporated FBBC in 1995 and filed a statement with the Secretary of State to raise funds through an offering for FBBC. During the first couple of years of the FBBC’s existence, Mr. Herzog began to raise funds, but did not properly record the receipt of funds for shares sold. Herzog also failed to notify the accounting firm of the improper recognition of the funds. Herzog’s failure to properly record the receipt of funds resulted in the generation of false financial statements for a significant period of time. More importantly, the false financial statements were used to entice investors and were provided to financial institutions, i.e. the City of Buffalo Economic Renaissance Corporation, falsely representing FBBC’s firm financial situation.

Likewise, Mr. Herzog’s wife, Mary Herzog, loaned FBBC $50,000.00 from her 401K fund. However, like the failure to record the receipt of funds, this loan was not properly recorded in FBBC’s books and records and investors were mislead as to the financial health of FBBC at the time they invested.

Currently, Mr. Herzog has not provided financial statements and/or records for the close of the financial year 2009 and is attempting to sell FBBC without providing the shareholders the information to make a proper analysis on whether to approve the sale of FBBC.

It is my understanding that audit of FBBC’s records has not been done in over 10 years.

FBBC Is Herzog’s Alter Ego

I have personally witnessed Mr. Herzog and his wife treat FBBC as their personal business. In the 10 weeks I observed operations at FBBC, I witnessed Mr. Herzog take approximately $6,000.00 of FBBC’s capital to purchase personal items and for his personal travel or the travel of his family members. For example, the day Mr. Herzog and his wife were scheduled to leave Buffalo for a trip to Europe, Mrs. Herzog opened the cash register and removed $800.00 in cash. Shockingly, she never documented the removal of the cash. Similarly, Mr. Herzog used FBBC’s capital to travel to Washington D.C. to lobby Congress regarding a tax on microbreweries. It is perplexing that FBBC’s Board of Directors would approve the spending of the FBBC’s capital for Mr. Herzog’s personal items, when FBBC was behind on loan payments, rent, utilities and payroll tax and could not afford to purchase raw ingredients to continue operations of FBBC. The unilateral decision to use the FBBC’s capital for personal use appears to be a breach of Mr. Herzog’s fiduciary duties to FBBC and his fellow shareholders.

Sale Of Alcohol Without A License And Failure To Pay New York And Federal Sales Tax

I am told that FBBC has routinely sold alcohol at its facility. However, such activity is troubling for two reasons. First, FBBC has failed to obtain the proper license from New York State to sell alcohol at its facility. Second, it is my understanding that the books and records indicate that FBBC has never paid Federal or New York State sales tax for said sales.

FBBC Has Altered Its Documents To Avoid New York and Federal Excise Taxes

It is my understanding that Mr. Herzog has failed to properly file accurate information on FBBC’s Excise Tax Reports. For example, when FBBC would produce 21.25 bottles of beer, the records would actually reflect FBBC produced 20 bottles of beer. Additionally, all of the alcohol sold on the premises was never recorded and converted to case equivalents so the proper excise tax could be paid. Finally, on several occasions Mr. Herzog filed false Federal Excise Tax Reports representing batches of beer were dumped. In reality, Mr. Herzog was giving the beer away and not destroying it.

Beer Labels

I am also told that Mr. Herzog would alter beer formulas from the filled beer label, a violation of New York law. He would also permit unregistered beer label to be used in violation of New York and Federal law.

Personal Income Taxes

As set forth above, Mr. and Mrs. Herzog would use FBBC capital as if it was their own. It is highly likely that the capital taken from FBBC was not reported as income on their Federal and State returns.

Please feel free to contact me if I can answer any questions or provide additional information.

Very truly yours,

D. Scot Elliott

cc: New York State Liquor Authority
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
United States Attorney’s Office, Western District of New York
New York State Department of Tax and Finance
David Stillwell, Esq., counsel to Flying Bison Brewing Company
Dennis McCoy, Esq., counsel to Matt Brewing Company, Inc.

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Railrider,

You are sure one hell of a killjoy

-Beer Lovers

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Railrider,

What exactly was your intent by posting this? I beseech you to find a more rewarding hobby than surrounding yourself with negativity.

Brew on Tim! We all support you and look forward to seeing you and your fine product in our local bars.

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hey dip**** -

Why should anyone take you seriously? You (daren scot elliott) are WANTED in Texas and have warrants out for your arrest.
My G-d I know that the Buffalo News can't perform a google search and will print anything this ******* says, but that is all you have to do to find out what a piece of crap this man is.
http://www.lhpd.us/warrants/ and that is just the beginning.
Contact Travis County & Austin for the rest. This guy is garbage.

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Background checks don’t lie, so why didn’t it occur to anybody to do one on Mr. Elliott? Well, here it is in a nutshell. I suppose it helps to have a good friend in the FBI!

If you still do business with this guy, you’re nuts. He hides the truth, and he seems to lie convincingly to the harm of those who trust him. He may very well be criminally insane:

Daren Scot Elliott was born February 11, 1966. One two nine – six two – four one zero eight. Moved often, and has conducted business under many aliases. Divorced not long ago, with house subsequently going to the bank. Filed Ch. 13 bankruptcy in 2006 and 2007, against liens approaching $200,000. Currently wanted for tax evasion after the recording of an IRS lien for $720,000 in July of 2009. There are multiple warrants for his arrest in Texas and Buffalo, NY, and all businesses ever owned by him are inactive and/or forfeited.

He has recently assumed the name Scot, most likely to disassociate himself from his suspect past. This is hardly the resume of a player. He’s a poser, he’s on the run, and he's urgently trying to separate people from their money under the guise of a businessman. A guy like this is in survival mode and has no follow through because he's looking only after his own selfish interests.

If you're smart you will avoid him like the plague. His destiny isn't anywhere close to the neighborhood you want to live in.

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I guess a Utica-owned locally-operated brewery is better than no brewery in Buffalo at all, but it sure is a shame Flying Bison couldn't make it work under local ownership.

I do have to wonder how long the brewery will remain in operation here before FX Matt shuts it down and centralizes Flying Bison production in Utica, the way they did with Lake Placid. Seems like their past history is against continued long-term operation here.

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> but it sure is a shame Flying Bison couldn't make it work under local ownership.

This. For a city that brags about its brewing heritage, the craft brewing scene in Buffalo leaves a lot to be desired. Flying Bison (Utica), Pearl Street Grill and Brewery (owned by Wynkoop from Denver) and Buffalo Brewpub (in Amherst), and that's about it; not much for a metro area Buffalo's size. Guess we love our Labatt's and Genny Cream too much.

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Just an FYI- Although Pearl St. was originally part of the Wynkoop family, it hasn't been owned by them for a zillion years. To the best of my knowledge, its owners are local and have been for quite some time.

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And have extreme prejudice against their former owners. See: Train Wreck German Amber where a Buffalo can be seen charging with a Bronco. Buffalo. Bronco. Buffalo. Denver. Get it? Not only are they local, but they appear to be extremely local. They have done alot, not just for the city in general, but their neighborhood specifically.

I hate when people throw it at me, but Dan, get informed before you go on the attack.

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Not attacking. The Wynkoop used to be one of my regulars during my Denver years, and one of the owners is the city's very progressive mayor, John Hickenlooper.

Didn't hear anything about Pearl Street's transition to local ownership, so I'll plead ignorance.

Still, Buffalo's craft brewing scene could use some more life, and more love. Go to Cleveland, and a number of beers from Great Lakes are available in practically every corner bar. In Kansas City, Boulevard Brewing's products are omnipresent. In little Grand Rapids, Founders Brewing beers are on tap everywhere. Meanwhile, what locals are on tap in the bars of Buffalo? Sure, in the past, a small number had one or more brews from Flying Bison on tap, but it was generally hard to find.

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If Southern Tier can be as successful as it is (wide local distribution, large number of regular varieties, just underwent an expansion) coming out of the Jamestown area, then I find it hard to believe that a brewery in Buffalo couldn't be successful, given the right combination of quality product and good management. I don't think that the failure of Flying Bison should be taken as a generalization about the state of brewing and beer drinkers in Buffalo.

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Someone has a bug up their butt!! The only thing that I have seen the Liquor Authority do is create some many BS rules, change them a few years later, and make it difficult for bars to survive. That whole thing a few years back with Bev napkins and the SoCo lime chillers makes it seem like someone is trying to justify their salary. Is it me or is it a whole control thing?

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Although I don't know the motives behind Mr. Railrider's post (if there are any), he does bring up some interesting accusations. Income fraud is pretty serious, among the others.

Bufgal: The crimes listed, though crimes, are almost joke crimes. Nonetheless, there are probably a thousand Bob Johnsons, what's the evidence these are the same D. Scot Elliots?

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I have a mugshot - I'll mail you a copy. It is the same daren scot elliott parading around town making all sorts of false claims. Penn Brewing filed a cease and desist against him. Steamworks (CO) is considering legal action against SEAR. He claimed to represent a local bank (see Buffalo News article) and had no such affiliation. I guess it's just all small potatoes and petty crime, right? I don't have 4 warrants out for me in TX, do you? Also, his "investment company" (SEAR)is not a legal registered business anywhere.

I am glad that the letter was sent to the NYS Dept of Taxation & Finance because he owes them money.

He has NOTHING to do with Flying Bison & he is just part of the personal vendetta machine against Tim. I'm sick of it.

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A quick look around the internet would seem to validate the issues you raise about Mr. Elliot. Why he's serially moving about the country stalking breweries is well... just plain strange (unless he has a grander scheme not yet divulged... if there is, he better let us in on it soon before he's arrested).

In the last few years though we have a number of instances where good, honest, hard working folks who make a run at starting a small business, take on investors, and then see real issues develop if the business is not as profitable as the investors think it should be.

Funny that when your 401k takes a hit, you don't go after the companies that comprise the dow jones average. But when a local investment doesn't earn X%, we're quick to think there's a crook around. I knew Tim before he got started with this... he's no crook. Primarily a guy looking to 'brew his brains out', as the title indicates.

But just like Biacco, the guy from Spot, and on a totally different scale, the Rigas', it's difficult to keep the business running profitably, and satisfy your investors that your personal business is not mingled with the larger enterprise. But for the guy that starts something like this, it is his life, and the lines are less clear. Good luck Tim.

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How is Ithaca Beer Co doing? Have they been bought-out by a big concern? Last I knew, they were working with their local farmers, trying to grow hops in New York for the first time in many decades.

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BufGal (aka Betsy?)

There is no personal vendetta against Tim. He makes great beer and apparently bilked the investors out of their investment and broke many laws as he ran the company into the ground. He sold off the assets of FBBC for far less then than they are worth at the expense of the shareholders in exchange for his self-dealing and his own personal job security.

Where there is smoke there is fire... Time will tell if any of the agencies decide to investigate and press charges on behalf of the State and Federal Governments.

Until then enjoy the beer that is being made, while it is still being made in Buffalo.

Cheers!

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Railrider,

While you've taken a rather public swing at Tim here, perhaps you could divulge a bit more about your role in this?

If we are to take you seriously, perhaps you could refute some of the issues brought up in the recent Buffalo News article.

It appears you've represented yourself in certain ways that have not been entirely truthful. Do you have the means to purchase this business? What specific experience do you have in this industry?

I know little of the Herzog's since the brewery started, prior to that I had dealings with both of them, and believe them to be of higher integrity than you describe.

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"Time will tell if any of the agencies decide to investigate and press charges on behalf of the State and Federal Governments."

You got that right. Because I am sure the word of a scam artist from out of state holds a lot of weight. I am assuming you have proof of all these deeds you claim in the above letter? or is it all just "your understanding". Pure garbage!

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The truth of the matter is that Tim Herzog is an extremely good guy; engaging, intelligent, funny. Unfortunately, his beer is not a commercially viable product in that it is unusually malty, perhaps underattenuated, lacking hops, and is glorified homebrew. The yeast is not a commercially viable yeast. It's just not very good. Rusty Chain is the best commercial beer he's ever made, and he's still trying to jam Aviator Red down Buffalo's throat. Dawn Patrol? Eesh.

Worse than all of this, of course, is that Tim has very little business acumen. You have a demand, you can't meet it (forget about exceeding it), your partners want you out of business, and you don't have beer on tap anywhere. The man can't even keep raw materials in his building. Tim is supposedly a leader in the state advocating on the behalf of other brewers, and he can't keep his doors open or his orders filled. Shut it down. No great loss.

I guess I would be behind it more if the beer was good, but it isn't.

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While I'd agree that FB's beers, overall, are not as hoppy as is popular, I feel like you're way off. I would say Rusty Chain is the second-worst beer FB brews (next to Buffalo Lager). Their Oatmeal Stout is perhaps the best commercial example of the style that I've tasted, Aviator Red is a very drinkable, well-made amber, and for your hops - Barnstormer is a perfectly viable pale ale. In addition to those, the "Prototype" Imperial Porter was a fantastic high-gravity beer.

They also made a really great rye beer at one point, but then messed with the recipe to less-than-stellar results. But, overall, I think they make good beer, though they aren't going along with many of the hot trends in craft beer. Though if they never make a sour/wild ale I won't be the least bit disappointed.

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I agree with the Oatmeal Stout. I think that's a fantastic beer, one of my favorites.


I love people on here and at the BNews site seem to discredit the quality of FB's production with some sort of a factual argument, when its really all about personal taste choices, perhaps some personal vendettas and, most likely, the appeal of presenting oneself as some sort well-refined authoritative beer snob...

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Wanna know why Buffalo is a Labatt and Genny Screamer kind of town? Because it costs around $2 a pint, while FB costs around $5 a pint. We love our cheap beer. That simple.

In Cleavland, Great Lakes is around $3 a pint, and frankly, tastes better than FB.

I agree with Beer Boy, make a better beer and I'll buy gallons of it.

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Nah, price has nothing to do with it. People will go out of their way if the beer is worth the money. Look around at some other craft breweries.

There are beer releases that have people sleeping in the streets as if they were waiting on concert tickets to go on sale (yeah, i remember when people use to do that). People will pay if the beer is good. Even throughout this recession, one area of business that didn't see a loss in sales is craft beer.

While I don't agree that it's glorified homebrew, it definitely has never been my first choice when perusing the aisles of Premier. I think product quality (or lack of) definitely added to FB's demise.

Regardless, FB is good for Buffalo. Much better than what the alternative could have been.

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I do fond their beer a bit tinny but love the ideA of buffalo beer . I was shocked to read that they only employee four peeps

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Southern Tier IPA etc. shows up through the Capital ale House chain through Central Virginia too including Richmond and Fredericksburg. I would love to see more WNY micro brews offered through Cap Ale.

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