Real Estate April 16, 2010 9:30 AM

Termini: City Needs to do More to Spur Downtown Development

Termini: City Needs to do More to Spur Downtown Development

Developer Rocco Termini believes the City can and should do more to promote downtown development and even suggests going as far as using eminent domain to make it happen. 

Eminent domain is the right, granted by the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, of a government to seize private property and turn it to public use after paying "just compensation."  City and state officials have traditionally used eminent domain to acquire privately owned property for public goods such as highways, public facilities or sports arenas.

Use of eminent domain has grown as it is frequently being used to acquire private property to benefit other private individuals, namely developers.  In 2005, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld government's right to take private property for private redevelopment in the Kelo v. New London case. 

In New London, the City pushed plans to replace homes with a private commercial development, arguing that the new development would improve the community's well-being. According to the City, the jobs, expanded tax base and revenue provided a public benefit justifying the use of eminent domain.  The Supreme Court agreed ruling that eminent domain is a legitimate tool for communities interested in revitalizing themselves.

Wherever proposed, taking private property for economic development purposes is sure to set off a firestorm of protest amongst private property rights advocates and concerned citizens.  Termini sees eminent domain to acquire and assemble blighted sites as justified in certain situations with proper planning and judgment. 

"We tried to do the 500 block [of Main Street], but with 14 owners, they are never going to agree to anything," he says.  "It's just impossible."

DSC_0063.JPGTermini doesn't expect the City to take such a bold step however.  "There's no interest in eminent domain at the City level, or the political will to do it," he says.

According to Termini, "The City needs to step up to the plate.  Many of these larger projects won't take off without the City's help."DSC_0895.JPG 

And that means dollars.

"Cities elsewhere are putting dollars into downtown development," he says.  "It hasn't been happening in Buffalo."

That may be changing.  Termini is requesting City financial assistance to complete the funding package for two ambitious projects in the heart of downtown- redevelopment of the AM&A's department store and Lafayette Hotel properties. 

In his State of the City address, Mayor Brown proposed using $10 million of the City's surplus for economic development and quality-of-life programs.  Termini believes that the AM&As and Lafayette Hotel projects are regionally significant and key to downtown's future.

Plans for the vacant department store include underground parking, a first floor food court, second and third floor office space, a 117 room hotel that is expected to be a Hilton Garden Inn, 28 market-rate senior independent living apartments, and 52 upscale apartments on the top five floors

The nearby Lafayette Hotel would be transformed into approximately 110 market-rate apartments, refurbished hotel rooms on the second floor, and banquet facilities on the building's main floor.  Architectural firm Carmina Wood Morris is designing the reuse plans for both properties.

"They will transform two blocks of downtown bringing 500 people to that condensed area," explains Termini.  "It'll produce what we've all tried to do- create critical mass downtown."

 

AMAs-main.JPGTermini is seeking $5.5 million in City financial help to complete the financing package for the projects.  With the City facing a multi-million dollar deficit next year, the Mayor's idea of tapping reserve funds for economic development projects may be a non-starter.  Termini says there are other funding sources the City has access to such as New Market Tax credits and says the New York Power Authority settlement funds should be spent throughout downtown and not just at the foot of Main Street.

With the Historic Preservation Tax Credit law changes needed to make the projects feasible progressing, the last significant hurdle appears to be the gap financing.  He is waiting for a response to his request for funding.

"We're asking for $5.5 million," he says.  "That's four percent of the $120 million project cost."

"The time is right to redevelop these two significant downtown properties.  What's the alternative?  Have the Lafayette continue as a flophouse and the department store remain vacant?"

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Rocco needs to be in charge of this city (since noone else is). Our Mayor and his croonies have 'NO VISION' or idea on how to make downtown better. With first floor spaces at 'Outrageous' prices, we don't see as much retail and restaurants as we could. With individual owners of clustered buildings, of course we don't see entire city blocks (with exception to the Genesee Gateway) get re-developed. It just urks me so much to see our suburbs get more developments than our own downtown core. It's all about politics.

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Wow. NO KIDDING there's public opposition to government taking private property from one owner and giving it to another.

Seriously, private property rights are at the very very base bottom root of western civilization.

Last time I checked, a flipping sports arena is not a "public good".

Last time I checked, the New London development has been CANCELED or at least long-term postponed, meaning the good people of that neighborhood have been wiped out for nothing.

Last time I checked, the eminent domain garbage in Buffalo gave us the 33. We all know how awesome that turned out.

No, using eminent domain to steal property from some owners and give it to some other private developers is completely, utterly immoral.

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Agree 100%

I think the city can do a better job prodding neglecting owners but ED is not the way to do it.

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I'm not sure seizing the entire 500 block of Main and making one big "superproject" out of it would be the best way to go anyway. I think the block will be more likely to improve via smaller-scale, more diverse projects such as the travel agency renovation by the owner of Brodo. This jumble of different uses, different architectural styles, etc., is what makes cities interesting and vibrant.

I mean, can you imagine Elmwood Avenue being anything near what it is if the city can seized every single property and gave them to a single developer to redevelop?

The idea of using eminent domain to redevelop a large area based on a single developer's plan is what gave us housing projects and the convention center.

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It's not immoral if the owners are sitting on a lot and not doing anything about it on purpose.. which is something that you see on almost every street in the city. It happened with AM&As and The Lafayette. Termini deciding to redevelop those properties was a godsend.. but also extremely rare in Buffalo. There are so many other properties not just in downtown but throughout the east and west side of Buffalo, that are crumbling because their owners are getting away with it.

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Eminent Domain is not always the answer...

New London is a good example - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704402404574527513453636326.html

Local example is Niagara Falls.

However, there is Times Square (that is of course if you believe that the largest TGI Fridays is better than a xxx movie theatre) To some that might be debatable.

As has been talked about before, there needs to be a plan to develop clusters and then let those clusters expand. I don't think the plan should involve taking away property unless the owner is absent and the building is on its way to disrepair those need to be caught before they become emergency situations.

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I disagree with Rocco that the government should use the powers of eminent domain to seize private property and give it to other private developer. however i think that the city should do everything in their power to make sure that these developments happen. if they haven't spent all of that "rainy day" fund yet than they should spend it to make sure that Rocco has the funding he needs to get these projects started before they balance their budget with it. these developments represent a tax base and people moving back into the city and possible spur more developments. The 12,500 dollars of annual contribution to health insurance for teachers, or the fact that the average salary of a public employee is $40,675 when the average private sector employee makes $35,977 is out of control. now don't get me wrong i think that public servants should get paid as much as we can AFFORD. But I can't afford what they get paid now.

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what the he'll does this have to do with teachers or state workers? why complain abt NASA spending that could be redirected to cities it's just as ridiculous.

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sorry, that's the most idiotic rationale I've ever had the misfortune of reading here.

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the last time the city used eminent domain we wound up with the convention ctr right?

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Exactly...

If the city wanted they could take a bunch of buildings that are laying dormant. It won't make a difference if there is no one willing to develop it. Giant structures are rarely the answer.

Organic development is the only way to bring around sustainable progress.

I'm worried that we are pinning our hopes on these historic tax credits and when they get passed the developers will just come up with another excuse. (maybe that is just the pessimist in me).

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"Organic development is the only way to bring around sustainable progress." Can we honestly give this BS-speak a rest please. Did you pull this from sierra club mission statement?

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The owners should lower the price per square foot or else we will continue to see these empty buildings sit VACANT for more years. Elmwood works because people cared, cleaned it up, gave spaces away, worked out deals with business owners (most of them) and it continues.... Downtown???? Who cares? Large empty spaces, Buffalo Place owning most of it and not allowing building owners or business owners to do much. You can't even sell ice cream with a permit along Main Street. The entire downtown system is backwards and confusing, noone wants to work together, noone knows who is actually in charge of anything, who owns what, what the plans for downtown as a whole are, and everytime a possible business looks at downtown, they are turned off quick by City Hall wanting to tell them how to run it, where it should be, blah, blah, while City Hall can't even run it's own city, yet they think they can run someone else's business? LMAO

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RE: 117 room Hilton Garden Inn

This has little to do with the topic but I can't understand why Termini doesn't try to bring in a more urban like hotel instead of these suburban/airport type hotels?

Reach a little for a HILTON like chain, etc.

Cities like Madison WI and Albuquerque NM have Hilton's(the one in ABQ is a dump); why can't Buffalo?

Time to reach.

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Hilton Garden Inn is fine because Termini is putting it in an historic building. If he were building a new suburban style hotel in the city that would be an issue. If it were a higher end chain they would want higher prices making it less viable possibly.

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On a positive note... I think the developers in town (Termini, Paladino, et all) have done some terrific work and I hope they continue to.

What I am sick of hearing out of them is the blaming and begging to the City and the State.

City and State... here is my plea:

Give me $10 million and eminent domain a prominent block of downtown. I promise something awesome! - Sincerely Buffalo's Newest "Developer"

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Getting completely and totally off subject - What about light?
With all these renovated old buildings coming on line or soon to be, should part of the renovation not include some sort of architectural lighting? Not everything has to look like the Peace Bridge but statistically placed LED lighting to highlight significant elements on the building details and cornices. This link is a perfect example,
http://www.constellationlighting.com/filelib/heritage_large_3_lrg.jpg
Now picture the Lafayette cornice and arched windows or even the Lofts at 136 lit up at night, that would look cool.

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"We're asking for $5.5 million," he says. "That's four percent of the $120 million project cost."

This guy plays you for fools.

Hey Saint Rocco, what's your cost of the 120million? Your cost is being the note holder is what I think. Don't speak out of both sides of your mouth - your cost is not 120 million. If it were you're sulking on 4%? 4% breaks your bank? I bet your real up front cash flow to make things happen is less than the 5.5 million you seek from your disciples. Prove me wrong.

Wolf in sheeps clothing. A nice-nice Carl P.

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At least HE is actually doing something downtown. If we actually had developers with $120 million in the bank, would'nt our downtown be more developed than it actually is? The reason for the deal requests are to not go broke redeveloping one building. If you don't like the tax breaks, then buy a downtown building and redevelope it with YOUR OWN Money. ..Not so easy is it?

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"Plans for the vacant department store include underground parking, a first floor food court, second and third floor office space, a 117 room hotel that is expected to be a Hilton Garden Inn, 28 market-rate senior independent living apartments, and 52 upscale apartments on the top five floors"


That "plan" sounds like the nothing more than "fill the building with everything but the kithcen sink".

Absolutely no questioning of these guys "plans", just the usual giddiness that something might happen. Where's Bashir Issa?

Yeah City Hall, just give him a blank check. Because everyone wants an upscale condo location where they can stop down on floor 4 for some gin rummy with the seniors, and stop down on floor 1 for some Manchu Wok afterwards, and then maybe catch some karaoke at the Hilton Garden Inn Lounge. Awesome plan for a building. Call it what it is, Monday's soup of the day- can I have it for free- plan.

Here's another idea City Hall: Stop giving tax money to individuals that claim they do it because they love the city, and start using the tax dollars to build green manufacturing infrastructure in your brownfields or maybe use it to build better labs in your schools or hey, why not even give some back to your overcharged constituency? Or the citizens of Buffalo and WNY should just have a new line on their paystubs that says something like "CPaRTaMCT" - The Carl P and Rocco T and Mark C tax.

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No not easy yes- because it's bad business unless you actually have a business model where your return on investment makes sense.

These aren't business plans, theyre gut-it, clean-it, rebuild something in-it, and walk away plans. What is he selling - a nicer building. For someone else to sustainably capitalize. That's not a business plan. That's you redoing your kitchen and asking me to give you 10k towards it while you then sell it afterwards.

Your downtown would be better developed if you had an actual economy to support it.

You want your tax dollars going to try and re-energize your economy directly through infrastructure or stopping brain drain, or do you just want it to go to these guys who seem to know NOTHING ELSE to do with it except build condos and hotels (with 1st floor retail). I mean is there no other "business plan" that exists for this redevelopment? It's nothing but condos and hotels condos and hotels.

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"It's nothing but condos and hotels condos and hotels"

Sometimes also there's some musical chair office space reshuffling, maybe some lofts, and a coffee shop here and there.

Your idea for spending the $ instead on manufacturing infrastucture would be much better, as would improved basic services, as would more street repairs, as would tax cuts, ....

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The problem with redeveloping the 500 block (and so many others) is so many owners are sitting on their properties waiting for something to happen so they can cash in. They want a mega project to happen on their lot or across the street so they can make out. That can be the only reason they sit on these tiny parcels with no action. In the meantime, the vacant buildings rot away. All Rocco is trying to do is get something going to get the owners on the same page to do something productive with their properties. The status quo hasn't worked for decades on many of these blocks. ED isn't usually good, but something needs to be kick started. And the 500 block reuses many existing buildings, not a big suburban development. Rocco's no saint, but he's managed to get many people moving downtown and saving some great buildings at the same time, which is better than most have done.

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There is a big difference between New London and Buffalo. In New London they condemned perfectly nice owner-occupied single family homes that had great views of New London harbor. In Buffalo they would be condemning vacant buildings owned by people who could care less if they are vacant or occupied.

Condemn them, give the owners their just compensation as is required by the constitution, and build something good.

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