lifestyle March 3, 2010 11:00 PM

Sabres, Losers of 12 out of 15, Trade for Guy You've Never Heard Of

Sabres, Losers of 12 out of 15, Trade for Guy You’ve Never Heard Of
While casual hockey fans have been swooning over Ryan Miller's Olympic performance, the Sabres have been hard at work quietly disintegrating.  The team has lost 12 of their past 15 games and are 9-14 since January 1st.  This, of course, is a mirror image of how they started the season as they stormed out of the game winning 9 of their first 12 games. 

Despite this multi-month cold spell, management didn't make any dramatic moves at the trade deadline today to help bolster the team's ability to make a lengthy playoff run.  Instead, Darcy Regier sent Clark MacArthur to Atlanta for a third and fourth round draft pick and acquired Raffi Torres from the Columbus Blue Jackets for Nathan Paetsch and a second round draft choice.     

Torres, who you have probably never heard of unless you just moved here from Columbus, has 19 goals this season which will make him, sadly, the Sabres leading scorer. He's played in 26 NHL playoff games and registered 13 points in those games.  Not exactly the kind of playoff experience many fans were hoping to see added to the locker room to help bolster a run for the Cup. Now, if you consider this a MacArthur for Torres swap, then it's fair to consider today a victory for the Sabres.  MacArthur could go missing for weeks at a time while Torres is a physical presence (hence the photo) who has outscored MacArthur 19-13 this year.  But you can't just consider the Sabres trade of a marginal forward for another marginal forward.    

Since the Olympic break, the Sabres have lost to the Pittsburgh Penguins and Washington Capitals - two of the better teams in the Eastern Conference.  Both the Pens and the Caps made significant acquisitions in advance of today's trade deadline making it clear both organizations think they have a chance to win the Cup this year.  The Sabres trades, on the other hand, have to leave fans wondering - does Darcy think we have a chance to win it all this year?  Do any of us?



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are you kidding me? he was one of the top 5 picks in the draft earlier this decade. he scores around 20 goals a year and is known by most actual hockey fans. but people here only like hockey if it involves buffalonians or takes place in buffalo.

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OMG, he was a top 5 pick in the NHL entry draft?

http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2010/01/19/the-success-rate-of-top-10-picks-is-surprisingly-low/

He's a marginal player who will a marginal impact (at best). Now you can go back to talking about how the Buffalo market is so ill-informed on all things hockey when, in fact, we are one of the few markets in the US where anyone actually cares about this marginal league.

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The Penguins traded for a guy who has just as many goals as Torres does and a defenseman that the Florida Panthers didn't want, yes the Florida Panthers. The Awesome moves the Capitals made? They gave up a top prsspect, a draft pick and a player for a defenseman (someone the Sabres wanted but weren't about to give up that much for a rental) and then got a bunch of roleplayers. I don't think there is anything mind blowing about anything the Pens or Capitals picked up.

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yes, it is one of the best hockey markets in the US. that does not make it a greatly-informed one however.

what i was implying was that there was much fanfare upon him being drafted, and became more popular after his great postseason with edmonton when they reached the cup. he is not an unkown-he's just not a star. he is buffalo's leading scorer however.

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agreed, assuming he is a player "you've never heard of" is a joke.

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Should have traded the whole team away, minus Miller. Sorry to see Clark go- he was a hotty.

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Torres has scored 20 goals twice in 3 full seasons. That said, he is still a good acquisition and hardly as insignificant as the author would make him seem. He also played an important role on the Oilers team that made a run at the cup in '06.

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Torres hasn't scored 20 goals since 2005-06. Over the past 4 years he's ranked around 70th in the NHL for scoring. If you have good knowledge of the top 70-100 scorers in the NHL, you're one of a select few. Or maybe you're familiar with Torres because you keep up with athletes who dye their hair (not that there is anything wrong with that) since that might be his most notable trait.

The Torres trade has the feel of the Dainius Zubrus pick-up in 2006-07. A marginal 'physical' forward who was a high draft pick and occasionally scored 20 goals a year. Zubrus ended up playing with the Sabres for 19 games and finished with 4 goals and 8 points.

So the Zubrus numbers - 4 goals and 8 points - are the over/under for Torres' career in Buffalo.

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The Zubrus trade was a good one. He wasn't brought here to put up points, he was acquired to be a solid two-way forward, which he was - he was one of the big reasons that Jagr was ineffective when the Sabres had the last change.

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Soooo angry. Usually the contributors on BRO will defend their point but maturely and nearly objectively. You criticize his being 70th in scoring. Where do the Sabres' players rank in recent years? Vanek, maybe, when he knows where the net is. He hasn't played a full season since 05-06. And unless he turns into the typical Pommer, Hecht, Connoly, Roy, Vanek... then I'm sure he'll get the one goal he needs to hit 20 this season. Chill out. Torres is a welcome addition. Go brainstorm how to get Gretzky in a Swords sweater.

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You criticize my point that the Sabres aren't good enough to win a Cup and didn't materially improve their roster before the trade deadline with the Torres acquisition by pointing out that none of the current Sabres can score and that Torres will be marginally better (20 goals vs. Pominville's 19). You make a compelling case.


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Seriously... this BRO contributor is reacting worse to his audience than that guy who wrote the comic book articles last year on this site.

Anyways...
BlueDevil, what you fail to do in this tirade is mention one argument for what the Sabres should have done? Other than not overpaying for Corvo, there wasn't one deadline deal that would have been more significant than adding Torres. He has more goals than anybody traded yesterday.

Admittedly, Regier hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt by his timid management the last few years, but it did seem this year they were actually trying to make a move, and there just wasn't as many sellers. As much as you want them to, they can't force a team to trade someone away. Instead, it seems that they made the best of what was an underwhelming trading period.

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70th would make him, on average, about the third highest scorer on any team he'd go to. I'm disappointed in the current play as much as anyone, but bashing this guy, or the move to get him here doesn't make much sense.

Ownership pays near the cap. We've got too many players not living up to their contracts. I'm growing tired of watching Vanek lose every battle ( I use the term loosely) that he get's involved in along the boards. Not enough talent, not enough heart.

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Oh, and how many Sabres have Stanley Cup experience? You probably do, right?

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There just was not many game-changing players on the market this year with the exception of Kovalchuck and Phunuef, I think Darcy did a fine job this year, Raffi brings a lot to the team, not enough to get us out of the first round but Darcy needs to roll up sleeves in the off season and take care of the rest to get us ready for a run 2010-11. Aside for a couple guys that can play fourth line (Gaustad,Greer, Kennedy,Kaleta) and Myers and Miller of course all are expendable. If you look at this team it is hard to belive that a credible hockey mind could have deliberatly assembled such a team of soft, undersized and at most times unmotivated players. Lindy should be commended for getting what little he has from them.

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*Nobody* made any huge moves yesterday. There just weren't any to be had. I like what Regier did. I think it sets us up well for next year (yeah, yeah, I know - always talking "next year" with this team).

I think if we unload a majority of the freeloaders that we have on this team (read Pominville, Connolly, Stafford, Mair, etc), and try to rearm with a decent puck moving defenseman or play-making-able center, we'll be better.

I was at the game last night, and it's tough to watch these guys. They're soft, marginally talented, and just uninterested.

Hopefully Miller doesn't have to deal with this for the next 5 years on his contract.

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I've heard of him,and there was not a lot of action to be had at the deadline. I just wish our team wasn't full of pansy a$$es. Most of these guys go out of their way not play a physical game, rarely will they stick up for their own players, and they hardly ever beat the other team to the puck. Basically, night in night and out its apparent which team wants it more. For all I care we can keep Miller, Myers, Kaleta,Pominville, and Connolly, and the rest of the guys can all be replaced.

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Same old Sabres.
I feel sorry for Miller. He may be wishing he didn't sign the long term contract. You can feel and see his frustration.

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Frankly, I'm sick of the dump-and-run because we aren't winning those puck battles - they just result in turnovers - but lately it seems like that's all the team can do. They certainly aren't showing any skill in passing. Also, I don't see a whole lot of players crashing the net for rebounds, which is important given all of the long shots being taken.

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I agree. They don't have the athleticism and/or desire to dump and chase. Our top line is ineffective. Vanek, Roy, and Stafford have no chemistry. They attempt tough passes to eachother that get tipped/deflected or picked off. Hecht's goal last night wasn't due to solid play on his part, it was thanks to a foolish lazy play by the Caps. This team is a mediocre team with a great goal tender. These trade moves are largely irrlevant. MacArthur wasnt contributing and Paetch spent most of the season in Portland so we didn't lose any more than we gained. If anything we broke even, maybe improved slightly.

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you know what i am sick of, this unenjoyable negative sports writing! half these fans were not interested during the 05-06 season and i wish it would just go back that way. people where sick of complaining.

We ***** for reasons to ***** and then wonder where the team gets it from. so much of our hope and joy is nonsensible because too many fans have delusional reasons to be angry. the league changes year to year and you have to loose at some point in order to grow, look at myers.


the team was at one point towards the top the the league. making the playoffs is more important then our glutionious sense for blowing teams out. the fans need to relax and be fans, angry parent syndrome sucks and i blame bucky gleason for making a bad situtation irrefutably stupid.

torres is a good addition.

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Was this article written by the people who comment on buffalonews.com?

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Such snide remarks to anyone that disagrees with the author, too.

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While I don't make it a habit to look at men without shirts on, I can't help but notice Mr. Torres' tattoo in the image above. The eagle - which is often used to depict American freedom - with blue and red in the background. I don't know the citizenship he claims, but he was born in Ontario. I'm sure Ryan Miller has a maple leaf on him somewhere.

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