Real Estate March 26, 2010 12:10 AM

On the Market: 192 Seneca Street

On the Market: 192 Seneca Street

An interesting Seneca Street commercial property is on the market.  Seneca Plumbing Supply's building at the northeast corner of Seneca Street and Michigan Avenue is for sale with a $795,000 asking price.  Chris Malachowski of Hunt Commercial has the listing calling it "perfect for conversion to apartments/restaurant/retail or virtually any mixed-use combination." 

SenecaPlumbing.pngEstablished in 1932, Seneca Plumbing and has been in this location for over 75 years.  The company is said to be open to a sale/leaseback scenario or may consolidate its operations into its Amherst location. 

The listing includes a three-story masonry building on Seneca Street and an attached one-story warehouse building along Michigan Avenue totaling 30,750 sq.ft. of space.  A surface parking lot at 204-208 Seneca is also included.  The property is located across from the expanding Buffalo Transportation Pierce Auto Museum on a reviving stretch of Seneca Street.  Current and upcoming projects on the street include:

Kamman Building Restoration- 755 Seneca

740 Seneca Renovation

500 Seneca Street Conversion

Chef's Restaurant Expansion

Get Connected: Chris Malachowski, Hunt Commercial, 716.880.1914

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well one thing is for sure, replacing that blank brick wall with restored windows would go along way to making the neighborhood look less forboding and more friendly.

Maybe they can sandblast or pressure wash that aweful red brick paint off to reveal the real brick underneath.

I wonder if there was a cornice at the roofline which was common at the time the building was constructed.

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That part of Seneca needs more surface parking lots. Won't sell unless more parking becomes available.

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Definitely. More lots. Maybe a garage.


I'm no realtor. I have no real estate experience. But what the hell does 800,000 get you? That seems high priced for such a desolate area. Maybe Croce can turn it into another lot.

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Maybe the awful tarred sidewalk (which they redid last year!) can be taken up to create a better neighborhood feel. I frequent this store and think it's the best plumbing store around, but the decision to tar the sidewalk was tragic.

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Looking on google street maps, it appears that the red paint and covering the windows is relitively new.

When is it ever a good idea to paint over brick?

You would think that if they were thinking about selling that they would have kept the windows and figured out a temporary way of sealing them off.

The building would have been a hell of a lot more attractive in its pre red and windowed state.

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> When is it ever a good idea to paint over brick?

Never. Just as it's never appropriate to cover wood with Insulbrick or aluminum/vinyl siding, replace railings and balustrades with decorative metal, or paint garish and amateurish signs on every exposed surface of a corner "deli".

However, decades of unbridled heavy industry weren't kind to the facades of Buffalo's pre-WWII commercial structures. Nobody in the era thought of such workaday buildings as "historic". Thus, painted brick, blocked-up windows, and other defacing.

Seneca Plumbing in Amherst. Sigh. Misplaced business names are such a Buffalonian thing; Riverside Men's Shop in Northtown Plaza, Cleve-Hill Tire everywhere but Cleveland Hill, and many, many more.

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we don't like it now but it was common to paint brick. here's a 1908 painting manual. search on brick to see all of the advice.

http://tinyurl.com/yz8zyjq

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I would think that an industrial company that has a need for some offices and a small warehouse AND a willingness to redevelop the building would find this a suitable location. But even more tempting in my opinion is the group of 3 buildings at 136 Seneca Street (where the United Loan Jewelry store is), right before the underpass. Does anybody know the status of these buildings (i.e. are they for sale, are they already slated for re-hab, etc.)? It's so close to Coca-Cola Field (or whatever they're calling the baseball diamond these days) that I'd guess it would be a prime location for redevelopment. Architecturally, the buildings have a lot of character and there seems to be a large parking lot associated with it. Somebody should look into this opportunity.

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And also, I'm confused. Is this an article about the building on 192 Seneca Street and its' potential for redevelopment, or a paid sales listing by Chris Malachowski of Hunt Commercial? Because it looks like a sales listing to me. And another thing, I wonder who thought that asphalting over the sidewalk and painting the building brimstone red would increase the value of a building promoted as a redevelopment project? And what year did the windows disappear?

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Maybe the asking price for this building is so high, because they don't really want to sell it. Maybe this is all just a ploy to demonstrate that the building is unsaleable. Then they'll board this one up too and then petition City Hall to reassess the property to a negative value. It worked to lower the tax bill on the Statler and might work for Hotel Lafayetter as well.

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mr. gorbachev, unbrick those windows!

oh, and chris, some brick is designed to be painted over, though in this case it is no improvement.

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I believe it was in 2006 that Google was in WNY, and
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all bricks have to breathe in order to last. A stain is ok--never paint, and
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while quality cement might last for 20 years without any protective coating,(especially in the long-gone days when cement was intentionally developed to last,) now what is poured is done *DS), won't the present owners or any future owners now have to seal in that asphalt walkway at least every two years? Going with *DS is always cheaper and is a responsibility-acceptance escape route...
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On Feb. 10th, 2010, WCPerspective did an article here titled First Home Sold at St. Stanislaus Gardens. The *DS sidewalk and driveway are visible. (Why was that topic shut down?)
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*Deliberately Slipshod.

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Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that Statler building!

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Actually painting brick dates back to Asia Minor when the Canadians use to paint brick as a means of fertizlizing soil to extract minerals such copper, iron and ore. It is called brick cropping. I think there is a festival in early spring somewhere in Manitoba to celebrate brick painting, it's called, Paint the Brick and Feed the Soil"

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Brick Cropping. Also SEE: Brick Fertizlizing.

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