
Buffalo Schools Send Message to Albany

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Leave a commentAn even playing field would be wonderful! So instead of giving charters $10,429 per pupil, let's give them the $16,120 that the Buffalo Public Schools get. And why we're at it, why don't you throw in facilities funding on top of that, so that charters aren't paying for their building out of money that is supposed to be used to run the school. That's what an even playing field would look like Dr. Williams, and I'm sure charter schools would welcome it!
I appreciate that Williams' job entails fighting for public school funds and defending the system of public education which he supervises, but as posters above have pointed out the playing field is anything but level right now, and the tilt is all in favor of the district.
As for the best and the brightest leaving the public school system, why doesn't the public school system compete more ably? For example City Honors is quite popular. If the public system offered five more City Honors, it could fill them. Many families paying through the nose for Canisius and St. Joe's and several other private institutions would happily join public education ranks if there was a bona fide quality alternative available. MANY suburbanites would move back into the city if they could get their kid into a City Honors. This is not a small market. There are huge numbers of students which the district could attract with competitive product. The district isn't providing it. Yet from what the union/district insist, these bright students should be the cheapest to educate, right? Isn't that the excuse they always cite: it's the handicapped students and leftovers that are more expensive than the 'cherry picked' charter kids. So if the best and brightest are so easy and inexpensive to teach, then why doesn't the district offer choices for parents to attract those kids and the educational dollars that follow?
Our first grader attends Elmwood Village Charter (we declined his acceptance into Olmsted 'gifted and talented', though it's within walking distance). His brothers will follow him. We liked Elmwood Village better. It was better disciplined. We liked their philosophy and their staffing. As it happens, acceptance is simply lottery driven. The students are not cherry picked. They do get more teaching time, however. The school day goes from 8:15 to 3:30 every day, an hour or so longer than the district's day. Every week, that equates to one extra full day of instruction as compared to the public school system's week. It's quiet in the halls, just like it was in Catholic grade school when I was a boy. By contrast, every time I walked into Olmsted there was a steady din. Offer more product like the charters are offering and the district will win parents back. Until then, I say ALL kids should get the same stipend for education, to be spent on ANY institution the parent chooses (including parochial schools, though I'm not a Christian, myself). The public should be funding education for all children. But that does not equate into the public providing a monopoly on the supply of said education.
For once, I agree with something that Superintendent Williams says.
Charter schools such as Elmwood Village, and Tapestry don't offer transportation. That alone keeps impoverished children who don't live within walking distance out of their programs. This is one way they narrow the "undesirables" out of the club.
I do wish that the public schools had a slightly longer day. Though I'd want that extra time to be spent socializing via unstructured "play" time.
There are a host of reasons Elmwood Village does not offer transportation. First of all the school would have had to pay for the transportation out of the paltry per pupil money (again, 67% of what district schools get) and then one year later the district would have reimbursed the school. Being a very small school, they could not have balanced their budget with that kind of money tied up for an entire year. Another issue regarding transportation is that the district has decided not to provide busing to charter schools on days that the district is not in session. Since charters have different days off and most have longer school years, this amounts to many days without transportation. The school also realized that due to its small size and the fact that students come from all over the city, students would probably have been riding on buses that serviced other schools, making some students' bus rides upwards of an hour each way. In order to ensure access for as many families as possible, Elmwood Village does have a partnership with the Boys & Girls Club that offers before school care beginning at 7:15 and after school care ending at 6:00. If the funding for charter schools is ever corrected and they get the money they deserve, I am sure many schools will choose to use some of that money to buy their own buses!
I don't see why transportation isn't made a separate part of the BPS system budget and funded for all city students regardless of whether they attend a charter, non-charter, or even a private school.
There should be identical transportation eligibility for all elementary and HS students who are city residents and attend any school in the city, regardless of school type. Their parents and guardians all help fund city property taxes directly or indirectly.
That would be more even handed and would solve the issue Hoss raised about some lack of income diversity at charters in upscale neighborhoods.
Buffalo Public Schools higher per pupil spending is partially driven by the large number of children in special ed. I could be wrong but I don't believe the charters offer this very expensive and necessary service.
I teach at a charter high school in Buffalo, and I think our special ed department would disagree with that statement... our population is currently 19% special ed, compared to around 18% in Buffalo Public, if I recall their statistics on special ed correctly. We don't do entry exams, as Buffalo does to sort kids into the higher-tier (City Honors et al.) schools vs. the catch-all schools; we get plenty of kids that were kicked out of city schools, and we can't turn anyone away, whether they're special ed, ESL or have discipline records.
So where do the numbers of $16,120 per student for public, VS. $10,429 per student for charter come from? Last I heard it was just over $12,000 per student for Buffalo Public Schools. A number which INCLUDES the cost of buildings/facilities...
The $16,120 comes from Business First rankings, not taking into account the disproportionate burden special ed puts on Buffalo Public. Of course Williamsville (top rated district) spends $18,034 per pupil but conservatives continue to assure us funding and performance are unrelated. I am beating a dead horse here but the biggest factor relating to school performance is the socioeconomic status of the student body. Not the only factor but certainly the dominant force.
Thanks Blackrocklifer. I'm in full agreement with you.
I am a BPS employee and send my child to a charter school. Many of the issues brought up are very valid on both sides.
Bussing is an incredible factor of who will be attending your school. The charter school may have chosen the option to spend money in other areas, but it WILL stop a child from attending that school if their parents do not have the means to get them there.
I am currently teaching in a school with good standing. The number of busses coming to this school is at the highest it has ever been. Parents want their kids in good schools, even if they are on the other side of the city.
My child was accepted in Olmsted, but I chose to send him to a charter because it offered a more well rounded education. He was able to go to gym, art, and music more than once in a six day cycle (BPS). I really like that they can choose what works best for them. The programs that are offered are superior. This charter school sees the importance of the arts and physical activity in young children.
I have also taught many years in a school where we would get the same refugee children at school 45. I do not see these kids in the charter school that my child attends.
Charter schools like Tapestry and Elmwood Village have brought many positive things to the city. They have given parents public school options. This is helping bring back our city!I think competition is a good thing.
I would like to see a policy put into place for charter schools to not be able to kick out children that are deemed as challenging. I know of MANY children that were told that the charter school they were attending "may not be the right fit." They end up back in BPS.
I want all of the schools to succeed, but let's not pretend that a fourth grader that was living in Somalia last year in a refugee camp with no running water is going to do as well on the New York State English Language Arts Assessment as another fourth grader that has been read to since birth, visited doctors, and has eaten organic food from the Lexington Coop.
I have to also make a comment about not being "cherry picked." The whole fact that you are an aware parent, knew when to apply (usually different deadlines from BPS), and are able to drive your child does in fact make it "cherry picked." You fit into the same group as all of the other parents that applied to the school.
If I'm a drug addicted, single mom, with four kids, I probably don't know the school even exists. The only reason I will send my six year old into school is because the teachers know that my older children have a younger sibling and they called CPS for educational neglect. Therefore I have to send my child to school ###.
You were cherry picked!
Okay, so let's go with the cherry picking train of thought a bit more. First, I'd like to acknowledge that there are plenty of charters located in poorer neighborhoods (maritime, south buffalo, king, the charter renting from Pridgen's church, etc.). But even in these, it's true that parents of charter school students are likely to be more concerned and aware than the general population of BPS parents. Let's agree, we charter parents self select and we may generally have more means and therefore our kids would probably do better than others regardless of where they are placed. That still doesn't explain your and my decision to decline Olmsted and accept charters. We'd be cherry picked, by that definition, whether we attended Olmsted or a charter.
So, here's the question (again): Why can't the BPS compete better for us cherry picking parents? If there is this pool of informed, conscientious parents who are fleeing the public schools, why can't the BPS design programs that appeal to us? As you say, even charters get stuck with learning disabled kids and kids who have discipline problems (there are such at Elmwood Village, too, btw). Yet the charters do with 2/3 the funding per student plus they must pay for their own real estate out of that diminished tuition. Per child spending is still much, much higher in the BPS. So if our cherry picked kids are so easy and inexpensive to teach, as we are constantly told, then why, oh why, can't the city school system design disciplined schools where the arts are as treasured as they are in some charters? Where the day is as long? Where kids don't have to fear bullying and where learning isn't disrespected and mocked? Why isn't the BPS scaling up popular programs like City Honors? Tens of thousands of potential students could be attracted from private, charter and suburban school districts if the BPS scaled up popular programs parents desire. If our kids are truly so cheap to teach, then the BPS is missing out on a huge profit center. Attract kids like ours, spend less than the cost of tuition on educating them (that's what the BPS claims; cherry picked kids are relatively cheap to teach) and then direct the profits (tuition reimbursement minus the cost of education) on more of those difficult to teach kids they protest being stuck with. All the BPS has to do to compete with charters is take some of their vacant school buildings and design programs that cherry picking parents want. And they'll get 50% more per student than the charters do plus free real estate. What's so hard about that?
(I mean other than unions, and bureaucracy and a refusal to instill discipline in academic ranks and an ingrained jealousy of those who excel)
For the record, just so everyone knows what we are talking about, these "cherry-picked" students at charter schools in Buffalo compare to BPS kids as follows:
Free and reduced lunch - charters 80%, BPS 80%
African American - charters 66%, BPS 57%
White - charters 21%, BPS 25%
Hispanic - charters 9%, BPS 15%
Aisan/Native Amercian/Mixed Race - charters 3%, BPS 4%
Special Education - charters 14%, BPS 18%
English Language Learners - 1%, BPS 8%
Because BPS has schools specifically set up to teach ELL students, families of students with these needs tend to choose these schools. Charter schools cannot pick and choose their students - they are randomly selected from a lottery and charters are required to do outreach to ELL communities. I am sure that there are a number of factors that contribute to the difference in special education students, but I am of the belief that at least part of the difference can be explained by the attention to individual needs and superior instruction provided at many charter schools resulting in reduced special education classification.
It is true that in order to attend a charter school, parents/guardians have to be involved and informed enough to apply. However, choice empowers people, and the longer charters have been around the more people are becoming informed and applying.
By the way, I am curious if any of the anti-charter folks chose to send their own children to a BPS school that does not screen its students (testing, auditions, teacher recommendations, etc.) - if so, please speak up! And if there aren't any of you out there, then my question is "Why should other people's children be forced to attend schools you wouldn't send your own child to?" Instead of complaining about charter schools, let's make more of them, so that more kids can benefit.
I will once again urge people to go the the New York State Department of Education website. Look at the minority enrollment in the suburbs. I do not have any data from surveys but I will take an uneducated guess that most of these students are from families who once lived in the City of Buffalo. They chose to leave, they will not waste the lives of their children in failing schools, dangerous neighborhoods and poorly run youth programs. Dr. Williams is deliberating misdirecting the public by complaining that charter schools are the enemy of the public school system. How does he answer for the families who have left Buffalo. These families are attending public schools in the suburbs. This has nothing to do with the segregation battles of Greenfield, North Carolina.
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It is very disappointing to see such a one sided and simplistic post on such a complex and politically divisive issue in our community. I never would have pegged BRO as being anti-Charter school, but this post makes me wonder.
Also, who wrote this? From now on when no author is referenced on a post, are we readers to simply assume "press release"?
Is the mission of BRO still to promote good things about the City? If so, how do posts like this fulfill that mission?
Very disappointing.
I don't see how this is Anti-Charter School.
This is a one-sided piece with incorrect "facts" supplied by James Williams and no response from any other point of view. Charter Schools were subject to a funding freeze this school year (ie no increase from last year and they only get 2/3 of the money the district does). Charters didn't get ANY of the federal stimulus money this year, whereas districts did: that's why their spending went up...
"To reduce aid to public schools, while charter school funding stays intact would be both inequitable and unethical," Williams says. "That takes us back 50 years, before anti-segregation wars were won in Greenfield, NC." Anti segregation?? What? That's the inflammatory rhetoric that the union leaders are trying to paint charter schools with. It's ridiculous -- most charters are educating a disproportionately high number of poor and minority students and most are doing a better job, especially in New York.
There are too many points to refute in this article -- I don't know where to start!
Seriously?
Yeah, it sounds like typical bantering. It's not fair that (Your school name here)gets less money then (Other school name here). Up next the inevitable "teachers get paid too much" argument.
did you note that charters only get 2/3 the funding per student that public schools get AND that they have to pay for their own buildings out of that 67% while public schools have their buildings handed to them? Does it still seem fair and balanced reporting?
As far as I know, based on what I have read on here in the past, BRO publishes one-sided stories about a particular event or issue and then leaves it to the readers to discuss the issue. So lulu and lizliz....why not just give your thoughts on the subject and tell the "other" side to the story instead of simply complaining about the post?
Just a thought. The beauty of this type of medium is that everyone gets to share their thoughts. But if your thoughts are just a b@*ch-fest about the medium, what exactly is the point?