
Theological Thursdays: Haiti, poverty, religion. and Buffalo

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Leave a commentThe point, dear friend, is that in offering us an analysis of an op-ed penned by one of the most prominent voices in American journalism, on a topic of immediate relevance, from an oft-ignored/shied-away-from perspective, our author hoped to stimulate some critical thinking among his readers and expose us to something beyond Donn Esmonde. Sorry you missed it.
Sure Voodoo has something to do with it along with the culture left behind by Christian slavery / colonial rule and subjugation. Is Haiti any different than our own American inner cities? No Voodoo there to lay blame. The East side of Buffalo can't fix its self even though it is surrounded by the richest country on earth ever.
Steel: agreed. In fact, I would consider the Christian-in-name "prosperity gospel" to be a dangerous belief on par with voodoo.
Hold on?! You mean my car and my house are not signs of God congratulating me for being an outstanding person?
Amen, materialism and Jesus just are not compatible.
Scary stuff, Rev. Great stuff from The Atlantic on the role it played in the crash. http://tinyurl.com/yja2ptu
In this article's comparison of Haiti to Buffalo's poor, I like what I perceive to be an emphasis on individual responsibility for escaping the poverty. Governance should strive for equal opportunities for the governed, rather than imposing equal outcomes upon all (which is where most left leaning anti poverty sentiment seems to me to end up).
Quinn: I know your car. You really think it's a sign of congratulations for being outstanding?
Drew, I know your car too. If He is a "prosperity gospel" God, we are clearly ticking Him off.
David Brooks has mixed results when it comes to seeing the big picture and getting his "predictions of outcomes" right. Just go back a couple weeks in the Shields and Brooks podcasts on the News Hour and you can see that.
But it doesn't hold water. Don't large swatches of Protestants believe in predeterminism or predestination. Aren't WASPS notoriously affluent?
brooks indulges in just a little too much blaming-the-victim for a crisis that is so recent, raw, and overwhelming.
but lets say for the sake of argument that he has characterized haitian culture/theology accurately (even though it is arrogant to sum up and dismiss an entire nation's culture in a single paragraph). i still have to wonder if haiti's theology created its circumstances or if haiti's circumstances created its theology. if haiti's debt to france stymied its economic self-determination for generations, why are we surprised that haiti's people (supposedly) believe that the universe is capricious and that planning is a waste of time?
On a map of the world in terms of product or income per head, the rich countries lie in the temperate zones, particularly in the northern hemisphere; the poor countries, in the tropics and semitropics.
As John Kenneth Galbraith put it: "[If] one marks off a belt a couple of thousand miles in width encircling the earth at the equator one finds within it no developed countries.... Everywhere the standard of living is low and the span of human life is short.
One deals with cold by putting on clothing, by building or finding shelter, by making fire. In hot climates the law of conservation of energy and mass applies: keep still and don't work. Its not the colonists, its the geography.
There were different "styles" of colonialism (for lack of a better term).
There was cooperative mercantilism - a sort of lopsided symbiosis - where, in the process of extracting capital the mother country invested in the colony. In the best cases the colony was released from the hold of the mother country with a well-trained army, some shiny new infrastructure and a literate citizenry with skills for production. The equator passes 80 miles from one of them - Singapore.
There was also (I'd argue it's still happening) outright exploitation. No investment - the idea was to simply vacuum it clean of natural resources and move on. But the process had (and still has) devastating consequences for the native populations. And then, after the bad breakup we figured out how to keep them enslaved without the chains - institutionalized debt...but that's another issue altogether.
I'd say Haiti was abused in a particularly sick way. The results are well known and the colonists, I would argue, bear a lot more responsibility than geography.
But Brooks doesn't focus on this part of the story. He's talking post-colonialism.
What's more important - he's talking solutions - just like he did 10 days after Katrina (http://tiny.cc/mbuhq).
Singapore success in SE Asia is a product of its geography, being on the Straits of Malacca, one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. Certainly Lee Kuan Yew also deserves credit.
Postcolonism in the geographic context is pretty much the domain of overeducated white guys in twead jackets. I mean the French pulled out in 1803, unless we want to blame this one on the U.S. which would be the typical liberal line. Haiti actually needs to be colonized. The "colonization" arguement does nothing but shift the blame. The Japanese did a number on Korea and China, but they've seem to get over it. It's tired, used and acts as a crutch.
American is like ,hmmmm we hold the lantern and chop the tree down ,while other countries sit back- we come in and save the day ????but what really happens is that our resorces are used for these countries that have crap governments ,ignorant people, overpopulation [you would think growing in poverty ,any exta kids would put you in deeper strain? but no, they continue pumping them out praying for that handout and putting the blame on someone else insted of taking control- America is streching itself out to the world to the point of not snapping back in shape.Since my tax dollars and everybody elses is contributing to this great bill maybe I should fiqure out what % I am, and use it as a write off ?????
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You really should read Matt Taibbi's article "Translating David Brooks"
http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2010/01/18/translating-david-brooks-haiti/
Love Matt Taibbi but he's way off the mark on this one. I really dig that he's constantly at a rolling boil (I know the feeling) but come on. If there was anywhere in America where his "translation" wouldn't fly it's between 59th and 105th. We're talking about the Qom of the "liberal elite". Can you be a bleeding heart paternalists AND a judeo-christian belief-pushing "pull 'em up by the bootstraps" conservative all at the same time? You can't have it both ways!