Real Estate January 29, 2010 12:01 AM

St. Mary's-on-the-Hill: Developer-Ready

St. Mary’s-on-the-Hill: Developer-Ready

Sam Savarino is interested in converting the ravaged St. Mary's-on-the-Hill Church into residences, if he can purchase the property from an out-of-town owner.  The landmarked circa-1903 church, or what remains of it, is located at the northeast corner of Niagara and Vermont streets directly behind the Connecticut Street Armory.

StMaryOne.PNGSavarino struck a deal to purchase the Prospect Heights property contingent on lining up financing to carry out the ambitious redevelopment project.  After spending "over $20,000" on a reuse plan (above and partial elevation at bottom), current owner Julie Myrie-Oyewo reportedly now has an out-of-town purchaser interested in buying the property for more money.  Many in the community doubt another potential buyer exists and suspect the owner is only seeking a higher price for the site.  Savarino is said to be willing to negotiate on price.

Myri-Oyewo, who lives downstate, purchased the vacant Episcopal church in March 2006 for $17,000 intending to use the building for a daycare center.  That project did not proceed and the property's condition deteriorated rapidly.    

St Mary's on the Hill aide on Vermont St 10-31-09.jpgIn 2008, after two decades of water infiltration and several neglectful owners, the City stepped up code enforcement action as the building became a safety hazard.  In a calculated gamble to spur the owner to shore up or sell the building, the preservation community supported the City's emergency demolition order.  It worked.  Myri-Oyewo agreed to a $30,000 "therapeutic demolition" of the building.

St Mary's on the Hill tower Niagara St side 10-31-09.jpgThat work involved removing the roof, building interior, windows, and shoring up the masonry walls.  Today, the building is literally a shell of its former self.  A ruin if you will.

The building's Housing Court case was scheduled to be heard on Tuesday but was postponed until March.  Neighbors are pushing to move that hearing to next week.  A demolition order remains on the property though what remains of the structure is not falling down.  Regardless, the community is "concerned" and "disappointed" that the potential deal with Savarino has not been completed. 

Neighbors want the court to pressure the current owner to develop the property or transfer it to a capable, willing developer.  They do not want the building to deteriorate further or sold to an out-of-town speculator.

"What is there to weigh in making this decision?" asks a frustrated Kathy Mecca, President of the Niagara Gateway Columbus Park Association.  "It is a simple choice between economic sustainability and demolition by neglect."

Savarino sees a residential future for the building, last used as a church in 1994.  A preliminary plan developed by architect Paul Battaglia calls for a mix of 15 studio, one and two-bedroom units constructed within the historic walls.  Several units would be two-level. 

A similar redevelopment effort by Savarino is planned for the Livery building in the Cottage District.  A residential project there has been delayed but is still moving forward.  It would combine the Livery's remaining outer shell with new construction.

"There should be no hesitation in supporting an 'agent of change' like Sam Savarino who brings a demonstrated record of success to this community [as opposed to the current owner]," said Mecca.

"One would think that every elected official including Mayor Brown would be lining up behind Mr. Savarino on this one," added Mecca.  "Watching the senseless demise of St. Mary's has been a very painful experience."

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God help Brown and all the other stupid, ineffective politicians in this town. How is it that they are always, always capable of not doing the right thing. Unbelievable.

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It's still sad to see the damage, but this would be a lovely transformation and would help inspire uses for other such structures that are thought to be unlikely for reuse.

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If you want to effect change, then BR needs to do some research on landowners such as this one...publish their home address and phone number; make note of their employer. My two second google search of this name provided connections to UB engineering and Carbon County, PA. Let's not ***** about the politics which allow these things to happen, let's go after the people who try to make a quick buck ruining our city! Tar and Feather!

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Amen, Buffaloconnolly. Can you repost the info?

Lego1981--couldn't Brown and his cronies, I mean team, walk around with Preservationists and determine which are worth saving/not? Or, is that asking too much. Also, I thought the 5k demolition plan had been eradicated.

Either way, someone is willing to do the "right thing" here and preserve and restore this building. How, as a community, can we start to rise up and not make it so easy for our elected officials/individuals do the wrong thing? Simple steps may only be needed: survey in collaboration with preservation groups, etc. This may already have been done, so excuse my ignorance.

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Remember, Brown and his city own THOUSANDS of vacant eyesores. What makes you think he and his team would care to save this one?

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I have been to many cities throughout the world where ruins are left to stand, for a varity of reasons. Some are shored and turned into parks as acts of rememberance of a time or event. Some are just well...ruins, that have been around so long that the ruin itself becomes a part of the fabric and loore of the people. It is OK to let some of our churches become this. It stands as a reminder of what happens (in this case) when we collectively fail to act. The worst thing that could happen is it being turned into apartments or even worse, a vacant lot!

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I hear Palladino wants to convert the colosseum into market rate apartments with offstreet parking and a Family Dollar on the ground floor.

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Lazy reporting all around.

"Many in the community doubt another potential buyer exists and suspect the owner is only seeking a higher price for the site."
-Who in community believes this? What evidence do they have to believe this?

Regardless, the community is "concerned" and "disappointed" that the potential deal with Savarino has not been completed.
-Again, who is this 'concerned' and 'disappointed' community that only wants to deal with Sam Savarino.

They do not want the building to deteriorate further or sold to an out-of-town speculator.
-Would an in-town speculator be more preferable? Or an Out-of-town developer? Or just Sam Savarino?

"It is a simple choice between economic sustainability and demolition by neglect."
-This comment doesn't actually mean anything. Packing BRO buzzwords into sentence form does not make a real argument.

I realize this is a tough situation, but you don't do anyone favors by riling up the unwashed, uneducated masses to 'tar and feather' anyone they see as profiting in a way they disagree with.

And let's be honest, Savarino hasn't done sh*t with the Livery since the city stabilized the collapsing structure on their dime and sold it to him for a dollar.

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Regi says
"And let's be honest, Savarino hasn't done sh*t with the Livery since the city stabilized the collapsing structure on their dime and sold it to him for a dollar."

Is this a true statement or did you just make it up?

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I invite you to go check out the Livery's condition next time you are around town.

When the livery collapsed, there was a choice between emergency demolition (which the city was on the hook for regardless) and emergency stabilization. The front facade along with the tower and few other walls were stabilized.

At that point, Freudenhiem (sp?) walked away from the property owing nothing, after a shotgun marriage was arranged with Savarino for a dollar. Since then, I have seen no evidence of work on the building.

In fact, that emergency demo of the livery took place slight before the therapeutic demolition of st. mary's. therefore, Savarino has been sitting on his partially demoed property longer than this 'out-of-towner' has been sitting on theri recently demoed property.

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i thought i read in Buff Business First that the funding they needed just came through in september and december. that would probably mean work would start in spring. anyone?

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work to begin in spring:
http://buffalo.bizjournals.com/buffalo/stories/2009/09/07/story11.html

there was another more recent article that i can't find.

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If the work starts this spring, then I retract my statements.


however, it is instructive that this type of reuse in Buffalo only seems feasible when significant public monies are used. This underlying the continuing and systemic weaknesses in Buffalo's real estate market. Until that fundamental dynamic is changed, this type of development will continue to be cost-prohibitive.

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that should read:

this underlies* the continuing...

damn subject agreement

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So basically in fact the building shell has been secured adn Savarino has been preparing the necessary architectural documents and arranging the financing necessary for construction and that you just fabricated the notion that he has done nothing. Is that what you are saying now? I just want to make sure I understand clearly what you are saying

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Actually, the Business First article doesn't say anything about "preparing the necessary architectural documents" and "arranging the financing necessary for construction." In fact, Sam Savarino stated in the nearly 5-month old article that the funding was in place.

Savarino implied that the harsh weather is the reason for the delay, and in September 2009 said, “We might be a little late for the fall construction season, especially considering all the masonry work that needs to get done and the weather conditions crews may face by late fall.”

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So? I am asking if the statment made by Regi is true or if he just made it up

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Take it easy, Steel man. Good lord, are you foaming at the mouth?

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No, Not at all, why would you even ask that? I am not even sure why you replied here. I am just trying to find out if Savarino in fact has done nothing with the Livery or if Regi just made that up. If nothing has been done then it would be a big story that should be looked into.

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for the past 18 months, no progress has been made on the physical structure of the Livery.

Should that change with the beginning of the spring construction season, then, as I already stated, retract my statement.

Until then, however, the point remains. Savarino has done as much with the Livery as Julie Myrie-Oyewo has done with St. Mary's.

Anything else, Steel?

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So Then you are saying that the current church owner has financing and architectural plans ready for the property?

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well, if renderings and promises of funding were all it took to get things accomplished around here, I'm going to leave this conversation, walk out of my office in Adelphia tower, head to the newly renovated statler to book a room in the newly opened hotel (made take a spin in the Statler on the Sea!) before heading to the recently developed outer harbor to take photos of the peace bridges second span.


until shovels hit the ground, the livery is still in very troubled condition and is fully exposed to a harsh winter.

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You were the one who started the conversation about accuracy. Then you claimed that Savarino has done nothing yet it seems that he has done quite a bit. Architectural plans take a long time and I am certain that financing is very difficult to obtain in the current economy. So if you consider that to be nothing I would like your magic formula for building with no money and no plans. Or is it simply that you just made up the allegation that he has done nothing?

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well, extreme makeover found the late november weather pleasant enough to demo and rebuild an entire house. i'm just sayin.

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then you have no point.
for example, in the middle of last summer i sat and watched workmen cleaning up the site.
also, the Business First article i posted shows that they have also been taking care of financing and the architectural planning.

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did you read my original post?

If so, care to comment on the majority of my post instead of focusing, like steel, on the last line of the comment?

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why?
my post was a reply to your rejoinder to STEEL (in regards to your inaccurate comments re:the Livery). thats why the 'reply' button is there- to be clear to what you're referring to.

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Once again the City of Buffalo is a toothless lion poised as our leadership but failing misirably to lead. Here is a developer with a proven track record of getting things done and the City can only talk the talk.

Until the City of Buffalo is able to gain serious, legal and forceful legislative control over properties exploited by many in-town and out-of-town "investors", Buffalo will continue to slide into the abiss.

Mr. Mayor...there are hundreds of properties in our fair city that have deadbeat ownership. Find a way to force them to fix them, follow-up and follow through on the violations in a reasonable timeframe or face IMMEDIATE loss of the property. I'm not talking about placing some staging around the building to fool you, I'm talking about inspections and proper Certificates of Occupancy. There are stuggling neighborhoods in the shadow of your office that have viable historic properties that are owned by deadbeats just waiting for the next guy to put his money where his mouth is. Find a way to solve this problem, make this your legacy, you will be the most popular Mayor ever!!

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umm...can we start with the Statler?

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Sorry to be a damsel in distress, PeytonsCorner....but, other than posting on the BR blog, what can and should we do to effect this change (other than elect new officials)? I am trying to ascertain the steps that we can take as concerned citizens...

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I'm afraid that I'm honestly a bit apathetic about these problems here in Buffalo. I grew up in the Southtowns and was educated in Boston MA. For twelve years I lived in the dynamic and every changing City of Boston, a wonderful experience for someone in my field. Buffalo has much of the same potential that Boston had back in the early 60s. Higher Education located in and around the City was the key to their success. Development followed lock-step afterwards and has had few setbacks since.

I was very sceptical about moving back home in 1990. I was shocked then to see the condition of our City and ineffective government but was encouraged by the spattering of privately funded projects like City Center. Sadly, local government today is less effective and clearly entrenched in the antiquanted 1960s style of governance. With the city population substantially larger in 1960 along with a much more substantial industrial tax base, I guess you could get away with wasting taxpayer dollars. Those days are long gone and new radical change must happen before we see real progress.

I am encouraged by developers like Sam Savarino, First Amherst Development, Rocco Termini, Carl Paladino, Cityview, Kissling Interests and many others that find a way to develop properties in a very unfriendly development environment. I realize that many find a way with tax subsidies (our money) of some sort. Unfortunately and especially today with banking more pathetic in practice then ever, what else is there to make projects work. Ideas are in no short supply, we have a lot of talented people here in Buffalo.

So to answer your question, (I would normally use the expression "grass roots" somewhere here but it has been much maligned by our good Mayor) I do not know but based on the premise that we still believe that power is in our hands, we need to participate. Participate in neighborhood organizations, organize to actually show up in numbers for common council meetings and put our Council Members to task. If you are serious about the "how to" question (not just interested to know what a knucklehead I am), Marilyn Rogers our neighborhood leader can give you some better direction.

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The Mayor is'nt going to go after dead beat building owners. Look at the Mayor's City Owned Property: THOUSANDS of falling down eyesores and over grown lots are all owned by MAYOR BROWN! So, ask that question again, WHO is going to go after these dead beat building owners?

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These properties are being marketed to National retailers.

IKEA and Banana Republic will soon be moving into an abandoned, city-owned property for you shopping pleasure.

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Lego, despite the City owning lots of abandoned properties itself.

I do think, it would be possible for the City to use a bit of legal leverage to facilitate an exchange between a speculator that will sit on a property indefinitely and a developer with a plan for development of a particular property.

As far as the properties that the City owns, what would you like to see them do differently, than what is currently happening?

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Wow I really like the look of that reuse mock up. It's truly a shame that people looking for a quick profit are standing in the way of these sorts of progressive projects that our city desperately needs. BR really should take more of a proactive roll in empowering its readers to do something.

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Somewhat unrelated, but does anyone know what's going on with Shanghai Reds? My understanding is it closed. Their website is definitely down.

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Your comment intrigued me so I googled Shanghai Reds and called. They say their dining room is closed for renovations and they expect to reopen the first or second week of April. They are doing banquet business until then.

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Channel 4 News just announced the other day, they're closed for renovations till Spring.

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likely translation: "we tanked. sorry about that."

subway at elmwood & forest has had the same "closed for renovation" sign hanging in the door since before xmas, with no visible evidence of work underway.

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Yep. When a restaurant posts the "closed for renovation" sign, it's over with. Maybe James Pitt has plans to turn the joint into a "hip, urban" McDonalds.

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remember that middle eastern place at elmwood & bidwell? also posted the "closed for renovations" sign. it is suddenly a pizza & pasta place now.

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I want to make a garden in the ruins of this building

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your comment made me think: not garden but urban farm. the coolest urban farm in town.

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A flat roof? Seriously? Is that going to be the solution for the Livery as well? fix up a semi-demoed stump to look exactly like...a stump?

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It appears so, sadly enough. Even "fake" peaks (full of braces, no attic space) would be better, but if that costs an extra few dollars, why would anyone bother?

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Are we seeing a trend with Savarino?

He just tore down the Willert Park Housing Project (aka, A.D. Price Homes)which had historical significance...and was the 2nd public housing complex in New York State to be built for a solely African American community.

It was recently determined eligible for the National Register of Historic Places by Preservation Buffalo Niagara.

http://www.preservationbuffaloniagara.org/docs/WillertDOE.pdf

Did Savarino just ignore that fact? If so, that is pretty disgusting in my book.

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No. On this project, as with the Livery, Savarino is developer/contractor. At A.D. Price, the firm is primarily a contractor, working with developer Norstar, carrying out owner BMHA's redevelopment project. The development side of Savarino Cos. has proven to be pro-preservation.

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Thanks for the clarification WC.

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