City January 29, 2010 12:35 PM

Buffalo Alumni Society: Buffalo Grows In Numbers

Buffalo Alumni Society: Buffalo Grows In Numbers
When you're thinking about all of the different way to make a positive impact on Buffalo, one of the first tasks you need to perform is to identify your resources. There are a lot of local people who can provide you with the necessary tools to get moving on a project or an issue. Just think of all the battles we have been through - whether they were related to education, preservation, development, the environment, what have you.

Even though there is an excellent support group in the region, wouldn't it be great to know that there was more help on the way? After all, when you take a city that has undergone a loss in population, you must face the fact that some of your resources have also been lost. That's why I'm very happy to hear of a coalition of ex-pats who have formed a group to identify issues (that are important to them) and actually lend a hand when at all possible.

The founder of the group happens to be an old friend who currently lives in NYC. Over the years he has let on that he was interested in rallying ex-pats to not just follow Buffalo issues, but to rally for the city in ways that maybe the locals couldn't. Just think, for a few seconds, about all of the untapped resources that ex-pats have at their fingertips. Think about all of the big companies that they work for, or the relationships with decision-makers that could impact our city - just knowing that there is an engaged group of ex-pats that are gathering to not just talk about the Bills is... rather interesting to think about. Even if the group doesn't do anything other than form more solid and longer lasting bonds with Buffalo, I'm glad to hear that the effort is underway. From Frits Abell, founder of Buffalo Alumni Society:

"I'm galvanized - The Statler is the issue that got me reengaged. I started talking to other people who don't live in Buffalo and they all have passion for the city, even though they don't live there. The ex-pats are a huge resource that doesn't get leveraged. We want to create a more national lens on the issues, while at the same time we can avoid getting mired in local egos and politics. We had our first meeting in NYC this past week and the discussions ranged from a staying abreast on topical issues (arts, culture, development, environment) to creating an organized vehicle to get involved with local business. I'm an investment banker in NYC - I would love to be able to have the ability to funnel some projects and money to Buffalo. I have had the opportunities in the past, but there has never been a streamlined vehicle to get involved. Most cities roll out the red carpet for businesses, where as Buffalo has a track records for not making it easy or desirable for businesses to locate there. We are living elsewhere around the world and we a have access to people and resources that might not otherwise be available to Buffalo - and there are people who we know that when they make business decisions, Buffalo might not even be on their radar. We can put Buffalo on their radar and help them to navigate the city.

"We are still in formation mode. We are still determining what we are going to do. We need to remain neutral - we are not going to get involved with politics - we're like a Switzerland for advocacy. We're tired of hearing negative Buffalo jokes at the office. We want Buffalo to succeed. We have the ability to participate with issues, even as outsiders. We want to be a support group rather than being identified as a savior of Buffalo. There is a selfish pursuit as well. Many of these people want to have more opportunities in Buffalo so that we can actually someday spend more time there. It's a realistic pursuit. As our numbers grow, so does the passion for the city. In ten days we have 450 members on Facebook. These are not all New Yorkers either. Preferably we will have groups in a number of different cities that will occasionally come together to collaborate. The initiative is kicking off in NYC. As far as I'm concerned this is an international initiative. I personally am very interested in the development and preservation issues. We're putting together a mission statement - we should have a rough draft in two weeks. One member suggested that we should mobilize on a particular project rather soon and not be mired in theoretical ideas. We have the ability to bring important issues to outside eyes - to help Buffalo do the right thing in certain situations and to help prevent Buffalo from doing the wrong thing in others. We could potentially bring outside monetary resources to an issue or project.

"In a very short amount of time, people are really interested in the concept. It's taking what Buffalo Rising does from a local standpoint and streamlining the issues that appeal to outsiders. We are beginning to do market research of ex-Buffalo residents to find out what would be interesting to them. What would compel them to get more involved with Buffalo to create a vehicle for the need. People who don't live there still care about Buffalo. We can help to create partnerships with Buffalonians... it needs to be a realistic pursuit - business or philanthropic or all of the above. Our mission is not to be interlopers... there is passion underlying the mission and we all want Buffalo be a better place."

*If you are an ex-pat and want to join the Buffalo Alumni Society, just conduct a group search on Facebook

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This group may do well recruiting us "ex pats" by reaching out to the Bills Backers groups all across the Country and world. Bills Backers are recognized by the Buffalo Bills organization. Many ex pats have memberships and know of others scattered around from the Buffalo area. Believe it or not Buffalonian ex pats seem to flock together and wear Buffalo themed stuff around town even when out of town to attract attention. This attracts other fellow ex pats and networks get created, herds of Buffalo's start to amass. I can't tell you how many times a Bills hat or Sabres or Buffalo anything has attracted attention of others from up there now down here in Central Virginia.

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It sounds great in theory. It begs the question, if you are so concerned about Buffalo, why did you choose to leave? Yes, you chose to leave. I refuse to accept "I had to" as an answer to this question. When I finished grad school I had the option to leave but I chose not to. I was patient and found a good job outside the realm of my educational background. Many "ex-pats" are impatient and are quick to chase the dollar elsewhere. None were escorted out of Western NY at gun point. Leaving is a choice. Your concern is nice, but if you sincerely cared about the area you would still be in it. I am not faulting anyone for leaving, I am questioning the sincerity of their concern for Buffalo because they left. "Buffalo...I love you, but I'm not IN love with you" If your concern were genuine, you'd be here.

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"Your concern is nice, but if you sincerely cared about the area you would still be in it."

As a young Buffalonian living in Brooklyn, I can tell you that that's simply not true. I love Buffalo more than any city in the world. I check BR multiple times a day, and I'm constantly thinking and getting excited about the city's growth, and what I can add to it when, eventually, I return. That said, certain things just aren't available back home. I'm at art college in the city, and having many friends in different art departments in Buffalo schools, I can assure from their accounts and mine, that my education is superior (not trying to sound like a snob, this is the general consensus). Buffalo has a great arts community, but it's impossible to compare to NYC, especially in terms of supporting oneself as an artist.

Even outside of the arts, there are job opportunities and lifestyle possibilities (not to mention life experiences) available here and in other parts of the country that Buffalo just can't support. Going away does not necessarily have to do with any lack of love for our city, trust me.

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That sounds a lot like choices to me.

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They are choices... what do you mean? I'm saying making those choices doesn't diminish the sincerity of my concern for Buffalo.

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It sounds to me that you speak from the point of relative youth. I also left Buffalo when I was 18 and was away for many years--Mostly NYC, but also Europe and Toronto. You can compare a medium sized city to a city-state like New York that is bigger than many countries and find deficiencies in both directions. To have a lowly publishing job you may have to be in New York; in Buffalo you can be a writer and teacher and live like a nobleman. Which is better? In the eye of the beholder, no?

I found living in NYC to be stimulating for a couple of years; it soon came into focus that life there was not much different from life in Buffalo, just set to a louder score more boisterous score, jarringly expensive and with no real sanctuary that I could call my own. Here in Buffalo I've met people wiser and more thoughtful than anyone I knew in New York, a palace to call my own, a partner, satisfying work and a larger cultural menu than I know what to do with. It is simply untrue that one does not have "lifestyle" choices in Buffalo. The pool is smaller than NYC, but it is also bigger than hundreds and hundreds of other cities and towns all over the country. One can find love and meaning here as much as anywhere, and I know more than a few artists who find living here much more sane and affordable than NY. We have weather, architecture, and enough people to stimulate any fertile imagination.

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What is "relative" youth? What does that silly phrase mean? You are starting to sound like Steel. Throw-away terms. Nothing behind them. As usual your comments are thoughtful, but informed from a position that represents but a tiny fraction of today's reality in Buffalo. A "palace"? How many can live on Oakland Place? This site has become preposterous in its pretension.

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I meant "relative" to me; sorry if that wasn't clear. I sympathize with kimon's comments but I find the thinking clouded by the youth behind them. I do think we get wiser insight as we age.

I don't think the life I'm describing is confined to a privileged few. I know that it's not. There are many thousands of middle class people in Buffalo living lives just as meaningful as anyone else's. My point is that where one lives does not really determine one's happiness, outside of some very dire places to live. And Buffalo's problems are shared by every single northern city and many dozens of others all over the country. Life is hard everywhere, but when it's good in Buffalo, I believes it's as good as anywhere else.

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"When it's good in Buffalo, I believe it's as good as anywhere else" Spot on, Reminds me of a quote attributed to Abe Lincoln "I have found that most people are about as happy as they make up their mind to be".

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And I am truly sorry for a "relatively childish" reaction.

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Sorry, is it "spilled" or spoiled milk? Have you checked on your meds lately? Seems like you might need a tweak.

The fact that you could take a negative spin on this effort is impressive. Clearly, the folks do care..even if they never end up moving back to Buffalo, they might be able to bring additional resources (money, contacts, etc.) to help Buffalo.

Everyone talks about the flight out of Buffalo, but here you have a group, who pays taxes, mortgages, etc. in their own places of residence, that STILL want to participate in helping Buffalo? Sounds like a win for our city.

Get a grip.

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That comment illustrates perfectly why expats who want to come into Buffalo to effect positive change and help rebuild the city shouldn't wait for the locals to accept or embrace that mission. Just come in and do it. And don't bother landing at the airport. Just land on people like spilled_milk.

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Wow. Your provincialism is stiffling. No wonder this place is so effed up. I know you people are supposed to be able to "circle the wagons" like nobody else, but chill the eff out, man. If people care, be happy. Honestly, the pathological WNY misery is probably one of the major reasons young people leave and companies don't come here. I've only lived here for 3 years and already I'm sick it. It makes me want to leave, too. Everything - EVERYTHING - around here is, "Buffalo is the worst ever at everything ever! Get out while you can." I don't even know how to respond besides a gutteral scream. Nothing is holding you back but your own low expectations and pathological misery. Your politicians represent you. If you had any vision, passion, drive or motivation, your politicians would bow down to it.

Luckily, there are a few local organizations who get it and who do not give in to the typical Buffalo low expectations. They have a vision, they work hard, and they get results. I'm basically banking on them becoming the future leaders of this city.

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I have a great idea. Let's start a movement: "Positively Buffalo".

Simple mandate: be solution-oriented and ignore/don't give air time to negatrons, defeatists and/or mediocrity.

Spread the word....

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spilled_milk,

With all due respect, your perspective is very short-sighted and devoid of any originality, whatsoever. I, like you, obtained my graduate degree in Buffalo, from UB. I worked diligently to try to find a job in my field and was not please with what the area had to offer. I felt I owed it to myself, after a hard-earned education, to uproot and make the most of my independance and education. Since I left (almost three years ago), I was able to acquire an amazing job with an international company. I've travelled places and crossed paths with people (Seattle sticks out the most) that inspire me with a vision of what Buffalo can be, if we get momentum in the right direction. I've never lost my love for Buffalo, not one bit. Had I hung around Buffalo any longer, my degree would've gone stale, and I would probably be singing the same song as you, not knowing another exists. My point is, leaving Buffalo does not equate to not loving Buffalo. The people that have lived and network elsewhere provide immense potential for the city of Buffalo. Since you used an analogy that involved 'loving,' but not being 'in love' with Buffalo, let mw throw another one at ya...I think I speak for all the ex-pats when I say that absence makes the heart grow fonder.

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For instance the nightlife industry is wayyy different here than in NYC. Trust me, I've worked for 4 years as an Event Coordinator in Manhattan, and the way things are done there would be considered 'strange' to those running the clubs in Buffalo. We don't do 'Upscale' in Buffalo as far as strick dress codes and MODERN lounges with foods offered. I only hear that 'casual works here' and the only food people like to eat is 'pizza and wings'.

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In NYC, "keeping up with the Joneses" means competing with London Tokyo Paris Hong Kong. In Buffalo it means keeping a carload of kids from going to Niagara Falls Ont. Cheap beer and wings is usually enough...

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Not everybody is a fan of Beer and wings (gasp). Some of us would like to be in a more upscale enviroment with martini's, sushi, or lobster tails as offerings.

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There are some professions where you just can't make it in Buffalo. I left because I was laid off.

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I went to NYC to make money, then came back here. I missed my family and my pets, but didn't miss "Buffalo" itself. Now that I'm back and my cats are with me, I miss Brooklyn and the $31 an hour I was earning - but I still like this crappy, shrinking, ignorant, self-centered dump we call Buffalo. Maybe my habit of hanging-out in old cemeteries helps, because this IS a ghost town.

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We are getting off target here. Let's help these people help Buffalo. Simple as that.

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We need to CHANGE CITY HALL and our Country Goverment. CLEAN HOUSE per say and get people in, who have PASSION and knowledge of making THINGS HAPPEN HERE! I'm so sick of only hearing about corruption and scandel in this town and NO WORK BEING DONE!

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Why are you so negative about Buffalo? I am sick of you bashing the city all the time. There is corruption and scandal in other cities. There are scandals in the suburbs so why do you only talk about what is wrong with Buffalo?

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Why are any of the comments to this story are negative? This may highlight one of Buffalo's significant problems with getting anything accomplished.

So they moved.. who cares.. if they want to support Buffalo, especially if they can divert Business, investment, and/or support to Buffalo, GREAT! Wouldn't any of those, simply serve to improve Buffalo and benefit those of us who stay?

This is a great idea, and hopefully something that can be properly leveraged to really improve Buffalo.

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To be perfectly honest about it, I left Buffalo at 18 because I wanted to get out of Buffalo in the worst way. I wanted to get away from my family, particularly my father. I wanted to get away from everybody that I grew up with. I wanted to get away from a version of myself, my growing-up in Buffalo version of my self that I didn't like very much. I blamed all of my problems on Buffalo and my experiences here. As I was to later learn, if you think that all you need is a change in geography to effect the change in your life that you want, you have a big surprise coming. It took a lot more of living, and getting sober, for me to become the person that I'm generally satisfied with today. And yes that all happened in Boston not Buffalo. But it was only after all of that living in Boston that I began to really like and appreciate Buffalo for what it is and what it isn't. Buffalo isn't an East Coast city. Buffalo is a Midwestern city. Buffalonians are straightforward, direct types with no pretense and an honesty that requires honesty in return. There are few cities that that are less tolerant of bull****. It's a city filled with beautiful architecture that only a small portion of the city's inhabitants are aware of. The city is capable of a wonderful charm as evidenced by it artistic community, the wonderful effect the GardenWalk has had on the city and the genuine friendliness here. Buffalo can also be a defensive place and while the brutal racism that I knew here when I was a teenager is gone, its ghost still lives, the result I believe of the almost non-existence of a black middle class. I have lived in a city for most of my adult life that I consider very expensive and very unfriendly. When a lot of young people just out of college come to a place where they believe that only by living in such a city will they be highly successful career-wise, make influential fiends and find the romance of their dreams, they will also have to deal with the reality of very expensive living costs, the personality withdrawal that density causes, a workplace competitiveness that breeds distrust and a general impersonal environment. So to all those unhappy with Buffalo, be aware of what you leave behind and what you will unwantingly have to experience.

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Wise comments. But I question some of your characterizations. I work in the Hamlin Park area, which is a solidly middle class African-American neighborhood. It's not insignificant. There is a Black middle class in Buffalo; it just gets ignored because it doesn't make good headlines.

Second, I'm not sure the description of Buffalonians as so straightforward, downhome and unpretentious is either very accurate or flattering. The city has a more complex personality than that. There is no "typical" Buffalonian, just as there is no typical New Yorker. Buffalo was an extremely wealthy WASP stronghold until relatively recently. A respectable amount of that money and class still hold forth here, as well as a deep rooted educated, cultured class. Working class neighborhoods in Buffalo also, until the 60s, had strong schools that offered fine educations. My parents never went to college but were better educated than the average college student today. In short, you could find every kind of person in Buffalo, and while that's changing, it's still a city with much more than a "no illusions' attitude.

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There may be a black middle-class in Buffalo, but it seems disproportional to the population of blacks. In my business life in this region, in the city and suburbs, blacks are still very under represented. The situation feels eerily unnatural after working in Chicago and New York.

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I agree, Years ago I spent some time in Harlem and I was surprised how many middle class black people lived there. Same for Chicago, solid neighborhoods that are predominately black, not just the gentrified areas but also the more modest working class sections.

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The best Buffalonians, are the ones who left, saw the world, and came back with new ideas.

And not so coincidently, the ones who are running the city - the politicians and unions - are the ones who NEVER left. In too many cases, they are not just career politicians, but generational.

Nothing says "status quo" like self preservation.

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Not always...I know many people who are lifelong Buffalonians who are as wise and sophisticated as anyone else. Living in America is a pretty homogenized experience.

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I'd offer that a lawyer in Atlanta that gives some key advice to a startup in Buffalo has done more for Buffalo than most residents of the area. With technology making location less an issue, how can we be dismissive of a willing group that wants to advance WNY? Local coffee shops are great, but they don't produce the kinds of jobs that will hold/attract the best talent.

Asking for a lot here... but I'd think best case, the group could split members into functional groups, like 'legal', 'financial', 'marketing', 'technical'. Anything that helps a local company go from idea to nationally available product or service would be quite a boost to WNY. Good luck with this project.

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BenFranklin's suggested approach sounds smart.

This part of Frits Abell's quote in the article doesn't sound quite right to me
"to help Buffalo do the right thing in certain situations and to help prevent Buffalo from doing the wrong thing in others."

That might be just how Frits worded it shorthand, but that sounds like the alumni trying to advise "Buffalo" as a city (which doesn't sound practical). Maybe though what was meant is more individualized help/advice to local co's for legal, financial, marketing, technical as Ben described.

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That is not how I interpreted his comment. It seems as though they are looking to help bring a national exposure to local causes which can, inherently, have a positive impact on Buffalo.

Also, he comes out and says "we are not looking to fix Buffalo. That is an unrealistic pursuit." Anyway, I wish them luck.

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Travelerr - Sorting through your BS about meds etc. I think I found a point in your comment. Your point, in my estimation supports mine, in that "they pay taxes, mortages, etc. in their own places of residence" and not here. If you care about an area, live there. My comment was more broad, directed at the large body of people who leave Buffalo and claim they "had to" My point is...nobody has to leave. Its a choice. If you truly believe in Buffalo, make it work here.

Sonyactivision - Again with the BS. Land an airplane on me? Considering somewhat recent events in WNY is that an appropriate comment in your opinion? I welcome and accept those willing to come to Buffalo and invest in the area. Again, I don't buy doing it from afar because you "had to leave"

reflip - I dont have a negative view of this area which is why I am still here. I chose to stay and make it work despite suggestions to leave. In your comments you are dropping me into the category of people that I was disagreeing with in the first place.

Ellzy - Thank you for being able to make a point without adding insult. I don't fault you or anyone else for making it work elsewhere. It is your choice. Home usually has a soft spot in people's hearts. If you choose to seek greener pastures that is your perogative. Some of us care enough about this place to sacrifice income to be here. I choose to remain near family and friends.



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"Uh oh, here come some ex-pats! Sharpen the pointy sticks! Light the torches!"

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Spilled, coagulated milk: your "comment was more broad"?

Seriously doubt that. Your provincialism, as someone else pointed out, is alarming.

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Thank you for reiterating someone else's point. Agree to disagree.

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Months ago, we started two FACEBOOK Groups:

Buffalonians in New York City: Buffalo in the Big Apple
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=189990193302

and

Buffalonians in Hollywood: Buffalo in the Big Orange

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=187575433620

The purpose, clearly, was to create a pathway from those cities to the Western New York "Community" wherever it might be located.

It is important for current Buffalonians and ex-patriated Buffalonians to actually support the Western New York community by contributing time and money to whichever actual, existing organizations they feel strongly about.

Individuals interested in making tax-deductible contributions, in-kind contributions, or offers of time are welcome to contact us or any other 501c3 not-for-profit in the region. All of us would be grateful for such committed, direct action. It is difficult to find devoted individuals who will continue -- over extended periods of time -- to support the many fine efforts to enhance and improve the Community.

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It's pleasing to see the activity around this article.

However, the world's population seems to have a short attention span.


Meanwhile...

We started a new group called:

Buffalo Earth: Buffalonians Around the World
to complement the other fine Facebook groups.

You'll find it at:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=301249708616&ref=ts

And you can donate directly to The Buffalo International Film Festival (fully tax-deductible as allowed by applicable law)at: http://www.buffalofilmfestival.com/contributesponsor/donatenow.html

There is also a fund to help restore the Statler Hotel at:

-http://www.buffalofilmfestival.com/filmfestivalhome/statlertowersfund.html

Please give generously to these and whatever other fine causes you support in Western New York.

Even charities need funds.

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