
Then and Now: Has Buffalo Changed? (Part 1)

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Leave a comment"City bashing is a basic part of the sports world that is often reflected in sports writing. It is a product of our society that's built on putting down the other guy to build one's self up"
Today, Suburb bashing seems to be a far more common past-time. Instead of addressing the real issues with the city, we explain them away and blame the suburbs for our ills. We need to get past our victim mentality and accept that the problems with the City of Buffalo is the City of Buffalo, not Amherst or Orchard Park.
We have a dysfunctional school system, incredibly corrupt government, we support a business climate that is decidedly unfriendly to large corporations and small businesses. We do not have a cohesive plan that we are following, we do not have a direction or collective agreement on what it will take to truly reverse the half-century decline we have experienced.
It is too easy to blame the suburbs for our problems, instead of really addressing the root cause of our own misfortune.
Buffalo serves as a warehouse for the regions poor. Our neighbors have used zoning, car dependant design, and covert racism to safely contain "those people" in the city. Is it really any surprise that Buffalo has problems? When 40% of our children are living in poverty is it a surprise that our schools have problems?
We have a dysfunctional region that has used our city as a dumping ground for all of the REGIONS problems. It is easier to kick the city when it is down than to accept our own role in creating and perpetuating the division that has created two separate and very unequal worlds.
Whatever, same opinion and rhetoric, different day! You are still blaming our problems on someone else. Do you ever think that there is a reason that Buffalo is the way it is? Maybe we are poor and dysfunctional due to our actions as opposed to the actions that someone has done to us? I know this is a huge stretch for you and your solid belief system, but just maybe you might see that people are leaving Buffalo because of Buffalo, not because of the suburbs.
I am probably just wasting my time like I did yesterday. I know that you have difficulty acknowledging the validity of any opinion that doesn't fully align with your own. I can see where you are coming from, but you cannot see where I am coming from. I have better thing to do than to try to have a two way conversation with someone who only wants to see things one way (his way).
"same opinion and rhetoric, different day", exactly what I thought when I saw your "blame the city first" comment.
I have never claimed Buffalo has not contributed to its own problems. As a life long resident I am well aware of our mistakes. That said, I have not seen you acknowledge the part outside forces have (and continue) to play in our problems. Our region is dysfunctional, the city just bears the brunt of the selfish and short sighted decisions that continue to plague us. Two thirds of the population live outside of the city and that two thirds are by far wealthier and more politically powerful. Don't they have more responsibilty for the present state of things as well as the ability to bring about change?
There is a big difference between taking responsibility and addressing the root causes and blaming the city. We have issues that we need to address, we need to stop ignoring them and blaming on our neighbors. I am not blaming the city, I would like us to end our victim mentality, build some collective esteem, and start recovering on our own volition. Your defeatist stance continues to enable the victim mentality that holds us back. We can rebuild Buffalo on our own merit, without pointing the blame at what some would believe was "done to us" by others outside of the city.
This is our issue to address. This is our problem. It is time we owned it and did something about it. It is too easy to say that we are what we are because of something someone else did to us. It is much more difficult for us to say that we are what we are and there is something that we need to do to change it. This is what we need to do to move beyond the victim mentality that you are perpetuating in your comments.
Comments like "the city bears the brunt of the selfish and short sighted decisions that continue to plague us. Two thirds of the population live outside of the city and that two thirds are far wealthier and more politically powerful". This is a victim statement. We are bearing the brunt of the decisions by the two thirds of the wealthy and politically connected outside the city. What ever can we do? Who will save us from these horrible decisions?
"Don't they have more responsibility for the present state of things as well as the ability to bring about change?" In other words, why don't the other 2/3rds take more responsibility for making things better in the city. Why don't they stop doing bad things to us and hold us back.
This is the victim mentality that I refer to.
My point is that the city cannot continue to go it alone. We need our neighbors to stop seeing the city as separate from the region. We need to share the resources of the region as well as sharing the burdens that now fall disproportionately on Buffalo. It is not a "victim mentality" to point out inequities that exist, especially when they are so damaging to our city.
Personally I have worked all my life to improve my city. I completed an award winning restoration of a condemed Federal style house and have worked on many neighborhood improvement projects. I volunteer my time to clean up and maintain our small neighborhood parks and I presently serve on the Black Rock Historic District Committee. My rep is solid here in Black Rock and "victim" is the last word any of my friends or neighbors would use to describe me.
Good for you! You have a good reputation in Black Rock and in the city. I don't think you can see the victim mentality that I am describing, it takes time and reflection to gain awareness, so take your time. Hopefully you will allow yourself to see the things that hold you back.
For instance, the majority of the people in the region do see Buffalo as part of the whole. They do have a genuine interest in Buffalo, as was evident in the huge outpouring of support during the extreme home makeover project and the large numbers of suburban participants in other projects like the united way day of caring. There are hundreds of other examples where the city receives support and time from volunteers who live outside the city. If you have a chance, ask these volunteers why they don't live in the city. If you take the time to listen, you might get a good feel for what is holding us back. It is not the people of the suburbs, it is ourselves.
I don't think you want to share the resources between the city and the suburbs. You want them to give the city resources. From past comments it is evident that you do not see this as a two-way equitable relationship, I think you feel that the city has been hurt by the suburbs and you want compensation and retribution. You want them to make amends for past injustices, the people of the suburbs should take responsibility for the sins of past generations and make reparations to the people of the city. In your eyes, their actions have damaged the city. They have created inequalities in the city. They have dumped the poor on the city. They have the power. They have the money. They, they, they, they, they.
This is the victim mentality that I refer to. You can still be a great guy and maintain a victim mentality.
You claim "the majority of people in the region see Buffalo as part of the whole", do you have stats to back that up? I have lived here over 50 years and have not found that to be true. I have heard dismissive comments at best and more often than not, hateful and mean spirited attacks on the city and our people.
Your evidence is the "outpouring of support for extreme makeover". I would argue the turnout had more to do with the hype of this media event rather than any real altruism. Where are all these volunteers now that the cameras are gone? Where were they before? I am sure many were there for the right reasons but many came just for the show. Not saying it wasn't a good thing, just that it doesn't prove any "genuine interest in Buffalo".
I am not looking for any handouts for the city or reparations for past sins, only that we all take responsibility for our own part in creating the problems that face Buffalo today. We cannot begin to recover as long as so many are in denial and continue to pretend the city deserves all the blame.
Wow you just nailed the attitude of so many city residents. Well said!
Jimmy>"Instead of addressing the real issues with the city, we explain them away and blame the suburbs for our ills"
"We have a dysfunctional school system, incredibly corrupt government, we support a business climate that is decidedly unfriendly to large corporations and small businesses."
"It is too easy to blame the suburbs for our problems, instead of really addressing the root cause of our own misfortune"
You just dont get it. The "root cause" for many of the "issues with the city" are a result of policy decisions at the state and federal level and not a result of civic "dysfunction".
Do I think the city is being run to the best of its ablilities? Of course not, and nobody, no matter how loyal to the city would say otherwise. On the other hand many of the problems with the city that continues to drive people out are a result of the discrepancy of resources that in many ways was govt enhanced. We have given people the ability to separate themselves and their resources from the central city while allowing them to continue to take advantage of the benifits of living in a metro area. That has led to a shortage of resouces in the city with increased demands and indifference and false superiority in the burbs. You saying the city is responsible for all of its ills is a gross oversimplification of the complex problem of urban decline.
We are winning though progress can seem painfully slow at times. Back in the 1970's and early 80's there was very little interest in preservation or what has come to be called new urbanism. There were some big saves such as the Prudential building and the mansions on Delaware Ave. but more ordinary structures that make up our urban fabric were pretty much ignored. Today we are finally recognizing the importance of preserving our built environment and realizing the potential of this unique and finite resource.
I can only speak for the past few years as I first came to buffalo in 2006. I came to the city with zero previous knowledge of it but early on i began to explore during my free time and i quickly learned my way around. In the past three and a half years i've not only seen a large number of rehabs and new builds (art space, the webb, 285 delaware, avant, health now, granite works, am&a's lofts, the opening of the commercial slip...) but i've also witnessed countless individual houses in different neighborhoods getting complete overhauls. from my experiences, retail in the city is as strong as i've ever seen it on elmwood, hertel and allen. i've even seen new trendy cafes, florists, shops and expensive rehabs on grant st!
i hear many people complain that the city is not what it used to be and from my experiences i have to agree with them... its better than ever in my eyes
Agree, I have been watching my city for decades and the past 10 or 15 years have been by far the most encouraging. 20 or 30 years ago there was very little appreciation for our architecture or neighborhoods. Today we see a new generation that is embracing and celebrating our long neglected city.
We collectively need to embrace our geography and weather. I've had it with seeing Kevin O'Connell bash the weather. Some of us love the snow and in order for us to shed our negative national image of the snow and weather, we need to embrace it. No one bags on Denver or Minneapolis (they are colder and snowier). Love the cold, love the snow!
Absolutely true! I couldn't stand listening to the weather people bash Buffalo about our horrendous lake effect snow storm. This is the first major snowstorm we had this year and it came at the end of December. Compare that to other areas, and we are doing just fine in my book.
I think some things are generational. I can't help but notice that the majority of "boomers" who's parents moved them out to the burbs have a general negative feeling towards the city. I think Lee Camp sums it up pretty well here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC27coob-_0&feature=player_embedded
I know that most younger people wouldn't leave if it wasn't for jobs. I've personally been to 48 states, went to college in a booming city economically (Nashville), and with the exception of a few big cities there's really nowhere I've been where I've thought that another city/town was SO much better than Buffalo. There seems to be an inferiority complex among some people here that they need to get over. I work with people in NYC all the time, and their attitude is so different. I remember this summer we got a call from our office and they asked how the weather was, most of the Buffalo people in the meeting said it sucked. It was 70 degrees but kind of drizzling. The guys in NYC said their weather was great except for the rain. It was also 70 degrees there. So you have two sets of people roughly the same age and demo with the same exact weather describing it differently. I know it's one example, but I can't help but think of it when I hear people from Buffalo bashing Buffalo. By the way I'm really pumped up for the winter festival, this city needs to start embracing our 4 distinct seasons.
"The Larkin Warehouse offices, the ongoing Genesee Block restoration, and the very real probability of the AM&A's building restoration are prominent projects, among many others, that seem to herald a big change in Buffalo's view of itself and its abilities."
The SI article really had nothing to do with the building preservation topic, yet that seems the near total focus of Steel's reaction post and of most commenters so far.
I realize building preservation is at or near the biggest factor for some people when they express attitudes about a city. However, some others (I can't prove it's most others, but I think it's most) would consider that a pretty narrow focus. I'm not saying it has no importance to most average people here, but it's one factor among many.
The rise in historic preservation is a reflection of civic pride. More people are finding value in local heritage thus more demand for preserving structures symbolic of Buffalos distinct history and culture. The public pressure to steer ECH development to a historic theme is a reflection of local pride as well.
I dont want to speak on Steels behalf but Id say that since the SI writer spent a lot of time dicussing how the community lacked pride, it would only be natural to focus the "reaction post" on pride through preservation.
pitbull>"The public pressure to steer ECH development to a historic theme is a reflection of local pride as well."
What a twisted version of local pride to advocate for spending on frivilous "historic" cobblestone at Canal Side when there's so many better uses of the public money across the whole city that would more benefit its citizens.
Odd that this relatively tiny detail aimed at celebrating local history is "twisted" and "frivolous" while you support far more expensive and destructive capital projects.
Yes demand for showcasing our role in American history (local pride) influenced a few more bucks to be spent on this waterfront park. Dont get too upset about that though as we are still a long way away from displaying the commuinity pride we ought to. For now you will have plenty of sypathetic ears for your wny hate rants.
Snake oil salesmen like politicians and developers have convinced so many in wny that our city is so destitute that it ought to be whored out for a truck crossing doormat, waterfront expressways and a casino operated by a foreign entity. A little more civic pride would discourage these undesirable uses.
Expressways are important for real jobs and quality of life. A silver bullet taxpayer-built fishing/hunting supply store and pretend historic cobblestone streets are what's snake oil. After the first few years of novelty wears off, Canal Side won't do any more for long term pride than the Main St pedestrian mall did.
Yes throwing a ton of cash bass pro's way isnt an example of community pride but I was referring to the historic theme of the public park not retail development. The cobblestone streets have allways been there and are being excavated and repaired. What is "pretend" about that?
I dont think your example of the pedestrain mall is a good comparison because I dont think it had much of an appeal to begin with. Also, the department stores probably would have left with or without the mall. Maybe a better example would be the Erie Basin which has maintaied its strong appeal over almost 30 years.
Again, a very small ammount of public money and time was sacraficed to make this project reflect wnys role in American history. It may have been a greater waste to spend marginally less to put up a generic park with its "replica slip". The whole point of bringing this up was that civic pride let to demand for the project to be based on local history which may not have happened in the late 1960s.
I see preservation as THE driving force in most of the successful neighborhoods here in Buffalo. Our old buildings are the one big advantage we have and demand is beginning to build as more and more are restored. Many preservationists (myself included) are part practical and part dreamer, these qualities are necessary to recognize the potential and have the determination to see a project through. The commitment and investment necessary to preservation makes for good neighbors and does much to bring stability to our city.
I do believe Buffalo has changed since 1969 AND 1980. We are seeing more positive storys come from the national press (New York Times, USA Today, American Style Magazine,etc.) and even have a Top Ten Neighborhood (Elmwood Village), and now Hertel is now our 'Little Italy' and Grant Street is finally turning a corner.
We are no longer, just knocking blocks down and hope for something better to replace that empty lot (well, at least not as often as before), we see value in people living in the city (downtown), progress on the waterfront (Canal District and Outter Harbor, etc.)
On a personal level, I've noticed our Downtown Main Street actually BUSY beyond the 5pm mark and even on the Weekends, including a few businesses open longer (Coffee Culture @ Fountain Plaza, Downtown Food Mart, Ellicott Square has some businesses that remain open later and on weekends, and even Tim Hortons on Court Street is now open on Saturdays- Remember when they used to be closed on weekends?) So life is coming BACK downtown and in the rest of the city.
AND if you watched WKBW-TV the other night, you would have seen the positive story of a family from MIAMI who vacations in Buffalo every winter because they LUV IT Here!
So, I do believe Buffalo has changed (for the better) with more to come.
I can only quote comments from my family members going back through the years as we lived in the city. There was a time when the poor, middle class and wealthy all lived in the city and lived in the same neighborhoods. At that time, everyone rich or poor cared about their neighborhood.
The period from the 1960s-1990s roughly was a period of grundge and dirt and dis-investment.
The big change came with the return of community associations that facilitated improvements, from redeveloped homes to garden walks. These grass roots actions brought the quality of life back to the neighborhood and with it followed the property values.
A lesson: whether rich or poor one must bathe and have a presentable appearance to interact with the public and so to must the public appearance of a neighborhood in order for the perception of value and quality of life to be worthy of investment. Its the littlest things that are signs of the humanity of a person and the humanity of a community.
Our region is a hard place to define. There is so much blame and accusation, much of it manufactured, thrown around it is no wonder we, as a collective, have allowed the region and its urban heart to deteriorate. As I sit and read BRO I am struck by the numerous misconceptions both the people of the city and those of the suburban areas have about their region. There is no problem that exists in a vacuum. There is no solution that cannot be reached collectively. Only as a region can we alter the course of decline. Only by dropping this ridiculous regional blame game and generational recrimination can we move forward.
I grew up in the Town of Aurora in the rural ether between the village and West Falls in the home my father grew up in. When I was a boy the most traffic I saw on our road was in the summer when the area farmers would move stock to and fro behind their tractors; now there is nothing but the constant din of cars sailing past. The posted speed was 35 when I was a child and you could barely do that as a result of the road surface. 15 years ago they widened the street and repaved it. Now cars cruise by at 55. The farmers have all given up or died; their inheritors, seeing opportunity elsewhere, selling the properties off. Grotesque subdivisions exist where corn used to grow. Folks “looking for peace and quiet” out in the farm lands complain of the stink of manure and the lack of convenience. They have recreated the suburban tract homes they just left behind, only bigger, out in the country they so desperately sought. Meanwhile the infrastructure expands to support this sprawl while the job base decreases and the tax burden falls onto a smaller population.
The urban heart has been hollowed out, while the cancer of sprawl has consumed the body of the rural surroundings. Mutual destruction is assured if we continue down this path. We need each other and our success or failure will be shared. The first ring suburbs are starting on the road the city was on back when the subject SI article was written.
I have always loved the city of Buffalo and am damn proud to call it my “home”. I love WNY and never felt shame or acted as an apologist when I was away in the DC/Baltimore area. When folks asked where I was from (since nearly 90% of the folks in that area are from somewhere other than DC/Baltimore) I proudly told them I was from Buffalo since it is the anchor that defines this region. Having been away I gained a new appreciation for the area. Despite the general animosity that is sometimes expressed out of frustration on BRO, we are closely knit and have a begrudging pride in our “downtroddeness”.
If we want to look for enemies we need to look no further than the buffoons we elect to office regionally and at the State level. We need to demand more of the so called “public authorities” that would steal the natural resources of this area for the benefit of those down State.
Buffalo, and the region, are improving. As the generation that fled the city and brought with them tales of the urban bogey man reevaluate their stance or die off, the next generation will begin to re-embrace the city and recognize its importance to the region. This has already started. Hopefully we can all work together to preserve the urban and rural fabric that makes us who we are.
Ok – I’ll shut my pie hole now. Let the hate roll in.
Great post. Agree 100%.
Your right, watching rural areas be turned into subdivisions while Buffalo is hollowed out is truly sad. Sprawl isn't just ugly, inefficent, and expensive, it destroys farmland, habitat, and the sense of place that existed for generations in rural areas.
If Buffalo is to once again become a thriving city, other then a change in the business climate and thus the job market Erie County must adopt a Regional Planning Board. Smart Growth guidelines from the state level and county level should be given to municipalties and if they fail to follow them (which they may) then the county and state need to use whatever powers they have to detract from further sprawl practices. There is no rhyme or reason on how WNY is expanding currently; simply more subdivision, business parks, empty industrial centers spreading 30 to 40 miles out from an urban center. WNY needs Smart Growth, land management and land conservation or else this sprawl will continue. Commercial and residential property developers and don't forget the Buffalo Niagara Association of Realtors (BNAR) don't want this to happen. BNAR if I am correct was even involved in opposing an East Aurora bond authorization to fund for protection of open space. Our Country Executive is not helping this issue either; he could care less about Regional Planning and vetoed this legislation. Groups like the Western New York Land Consevancy have the right idea as far a land conservation but as far as regional development and Smarth Growth we have nothing..
Agree completely, I am old enough to remember when there was a clear delineation between city and country. We now
recognize how damaging sprawl has been to our old urban neighborhoods and there is growing concern about loss of farmland and habitat. The part that doesn't seem to get much attention is the loss of the sense of place in the country and small towns. Sprawl creates a homogeneous effect that brings a monoculture of mediocrity diluting the character and unique attributes of these places.
Also agree with your take on Chris Collins, his lack of vision and blatant arrogance delays any real chance of progress at the county level.
"loss of the sense of place in the country and small towns. Sprawl creates a homogeneous effect that brings a monoculture of mediocrity diluting the character and unique attributes of these places." I couldn't agree with you more; welcome to anywhere/anytown USA, another terrible effect of senseless sprawl. Not that you need another example but take a drive down Transit Rd going through Lancaster and Elma; these municipalities have NO concept of a Master Plan or adopting Smart Growth policies. Put down another high volume commercial strip of office parks and empty retail malls not to mention yet another Target and Walmart. Proceed to build additional residential developments all completely unconnected from one another and isolated from commercial "districts" so as to require a 10 minute drive just to get a quart of Milk. Throw away village style neighborhoods and block street designs which allow a better flow of traffic. No centralized town/village, simply a homogeneous sprawling landscape which begs one to ask; Where exactly I am? More infrastructure costs, higher taxes, unsustainable growth and terrible business climate. This is a disgusting cancer spreading across WNY right now.. and there is almost nothing in place to stop it from my perspective.
The sprawl without growth in our region is especially troubling since each new build creates a vacancy somewhere else. The first ring suburbs are beginning to face the same problems that have so decimated our old city neighborhoods. The blight creeping into these areas just accelerates the momentum outward. We need leadership at a regional level willing to make the hard choices and do what is best for the long term health of WNY.
It's good that there's a variety of choices. Even though we live in the city, some WNYers prefer Lancaster or Elma. Insulting them for that decision and calling it a cancer is no different than them insulting us for living in the city and calling the city a cancer.
Although Collins has some personality issues, he's doing a good job of at least at trying to control the runaway growth of government spending. I'd like to see him control it even more than he is, but he's doing a much better job than the guy he defeated would have done, better than his predecessor Giambra did, and better than the legislature majority. He'll be easily re-elected unless some big scandal happens.
First of all, many thanks to iluvpitbulls, Blackrocklifer, orlanmon, and whatever for taking the time to read my post . . . brevity is not my strong point – just ask my wife.
Regional planning, as brought up by orlanmon, is precisely what I was trying to communicate through my post. We need to set aside our differences and the snarky ass biting (although that does make me chuckle on occasion) that does little to improve our collective situation. Buffalo as a city was not born in a vacuum, but then again, the existence of the smaller towns north, east, and south of the city would not still exist if it had not been for the city. We owe each other our very existence down to the genesis of the region; thus, we owe it to each other to ensure that renewal happens and happens soon.
Look at a place like Seattle. Where do you think the term “Skid Row” comes from? That place was nearly the ass of the country, yet look at it now. Two of the main factors that helped Seattle (excluding a certain uber-nerd billionaire or being the so called hometown of a certain music “movement”) was an about face in their policies towards embracing new businesses, essentially a big business/starter business/ma and pa friendly environment, and the adoption of regional planning. Oh, I guess you could also include a visible and easily navigated urban homesteader’s program and vocal citizen body that demands a lot from their elected officials and developers (dare I say it? Preservationists) – but including those items here would only weaken my argument .
My wife, a child of one the largest metros on This Island Earth, was shocked when she first flew into Buffalo. Her thought was, “Where am I and why did I choose to come here?” After a few short years she came to love the city and the surrounding area. One of the main things she finds most attractive is the people. When we were away in “that place” I mentioned in my first post, she became just as staunch a defender of Buffalo as I am. Most of the time the folks that talked smack about the city had, at best, driven by or, in most cases, bought into the hype about what a toilet this place is.
When we first moved we were enamored by all the “culture” that was at our finger tips; however, after a while, the shine wore off and we recognized, just like Dorothy, that maybe home was dreary and dilapidated, but it was our home and the people there are what made it special and bright. This is the place to raise a family. This is the place I want my children to proudly say is their home – city, suburb, and countryside. Buffalo and Western New York are worth fighting for and we should demand the same attitude from our elected officials.
My wife and I came back. We are here by choice.
As JohnQBuffalo aptly labeled me, I am a romantic. I do not take that label as an insult but rather embrace it. I have hope despite the odds and it is this hope that will continue to fuel my fervor for change and involvement in bringing about that change. We, as region, have been beaten down for so long we have come to accept the fact that so many elect to use us as a doormat. No more. No one is going to help us but us. No one is going to save us but us. They can attempt to bilk us for all we’re worth, but they cannot steal our pride, which I know still burns below the sheet of icy pessimism and defeatism our parents taught us and their parents taught them.
We can do it – together – Buffalo urbanite, suburbanite, and rural dweller. We owe it to ourselves and to the generations that came before us and built this region; it’s time for us to add our stitch to the worn out crazy-quilt of our illustrious heritage.
. . . oh, and please forgive my sad poeticism and saccharine nostalgia, it’s the New Year’s Eve after all.
Be safe and have a good time tonight.
Happy New Year!
We could learn a lot from Seattle. There first step in their turn around was admitting they had a problem to solve.
Here is a link to the billboard that started a movement:
http://www.historylink.org/db_images/req094.JPG
The sign was posted at a time when Seattle was experiencing 13%+ unemployment, largely due to Boeing cutting 60,000+ blue collar manufacturing jobs. The city was depressed and on a downward slide. The two guys who put up the sign were commercial real estate investors who were having trouble finding investors for properties. They felt that Seattle was better than the image that people had of it. Their snarky sign was received with much criticism for people who felt that they were putting down the city, but that wasn't their intent. Their intent, as described during an interview in the 90s, was to get people to wake up to what was happening in Seattle. The city was stuck in a rut and needed to wake up. The sign was a catalyst for people to take action, if they wanted things to change. In many ways we need to do the same. We need to stop making excuses and start taking real action towards improving the city. Like Seattle, our future is not in blue collar manufacturing, we need to divorce ourselves of that image and mentality. It is a losing proposition for us. The question is, what is our image? What is the future of Buffalo? Where are we going, if not down? False esteem won't help us feel better, we know that it is hollow. We need real esteem that comes from true accomplishments and change. Saving an old building doesn't build esteem, the fact is that it shouldn't have been vacant and decaying in the first place.
This is where our city lacks leadership and direction. Byron Brown is not defining the future of Buffalo. Craig Collins is not defining the future of Erie County. They are both trying to slow the decline while attempting to regain the glory of days gone by.
Buffalo needs to determine what Buffalo will be in the future, instead of making excuses for why we are what we are today.
With all due credit to Seattle's politicians for economic planning, it's a lot easier to attract and grow businesses there than here.
Seattle is in a state ranked #9 for business-friendliness. Buffalo is in #49 (NYS trails only NJ). See map in Figure 1 of http://taxfoundation.org/files/bp59_es.pdf
Also, WA has a much lower rate of unionization than NYS: 15% there vs. 26% here.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.t05.htm
If Buffalo and Erie Co traded our pols for Seattle's, after a few years ours might look great at economic planning out there while theirs look like idiots trying to do it here.
Simply being in a good setting for business, coupled with long term expansion of the U.S. economy, is generally enough for good growth to happen no matter what local pols do.
Correction - unionization in their state is lower than ours but not by as much as I wrote. They're 21.5% and NYS is 26.6%. So they're pretty high for that as well, just not as extreme as here.
Thats not too far apart from business hostile, union dominated NYS.
One again you are making the faulty connecton that unions+taxes= decline. Eduacation, healthcare and other quality of life issues that many unions fight for have more to do with attracting employers than simple corporate scapegoats and rhetoric.
Take the twin cities in "socialist" Minnesota for example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneapolis_%E2%80%93_Saint_Paul
Minnesota fared poorly on your "business-friendliness" and "union representation" lists but their prime metro has experienced significant growth.(3 million plus and counting)
If business hating, and greedy union coddling MN-SP can become the nations 16th largest metro and growing, that tells me they posess qualities that attract employers that more than make up for higher wages and taxes. They have a renowned eduacation system and lead the nation in literacy. They also have a wealth of cultural institutions and a diverse transportation system that accomodates cars, public transit, bikes and pedestrians. All of these qualities cost money hence the high taxes but they add to the regions appeal hence the growth.
And they have arguably worse weather than us.
Maybe focusing issues that make the city more livable and beautiful make it more attractive to employers than just slashing the budget. If you ask me I say this haven of "buisiness hostile" taxes and unions should be a place WNY should emulate rather than N Dakota(top dog on your business friendly list)
All very true, even with the correction. This is the environment we are working with, there are obstacles but they are not insurmountable. We continue to set ourselves up with disabling dialogues and limit ourselves with defeatist talk. We need to start emulating success instead of doing the same things year after year to ensure that we never rise above the lowest of the low.
Half right "armyof100clowns" watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hhJ_49leBw&feature=player_embedded
Buffalo suffers from the same overtaxed, leftist lobbies, big government self destructive forces as most other liberal city, county and state.
You like many, including me, have a romanticized version of Buffalo because it represents a regional center of activity and were raised in a stable enough community to be raised with the civic responsibilities, manners, etc where the governments responsibilities are minimal instead of those who think they have few civic responsibilities and the government is responsible for everything...to which the unions and the liberals will be more than welcome to promise (and not provide) but hire and tax them for you anyway.
They didn't tear down everything in the 1960s and 1970s! There were some efforts madetyowards preservation, as this excerpt from the 1966 BURA annual report shows:
/runs away quickly
They didn't tear down everything in the 1960s and 1970s! There were some efforts made towards preservation, as this excerpt from the 1966 BURA annual report shows:
http://i50.tinypic.com/1607mte.jpg
/runs away quickly
That modern porch is a beauty.
One thing that hasn't changed is the blatant disregard for residency restrictions for public employees. If those in charge don't want to live in Buffalo why should anyone else??? It looks like the Police Chief has a house in Amherst. He must be afraid to live in the city too!
I see the City's Water Board decided to jack up rates by 21%. We'll be paying 38% more for water than folks who live in the desert!
Way to go Buffalo!
A critically important factor hasn't been mentioned: POLLUTION. The stink and filth which blanketed much of Buffalo is gone, along with the jobs. It's ironic that most of the trees in Buffalo disappeared right along with the pollution (more than 400,000 in 1950, around 65,000 now - but those 1950 trees were left over from a time when the benefits were appreciated) .
Anyway - the chemical miasma was a major factor in making the suburbs desirable. In the City, it's easy to guess where the air was cleanest - just see where the nicest houses were built.
There really isn't that much disagreement in these exchanges as the multitudes of reasons that brought the city to where it is are/were not mutually exclusive. The push/pull factors have existed in tandem once WWII came to an end.
I feel fortunate to have witnessed the transformation. I and others who post here can remember the Erie Canal before the Thruway, the downtown that was, the divisive transportation construction, the white flight to the suburbs, and the migrations of ethnic populations within the city itself.
There is plenty of room for debate, but establishing simple cause and effect scenarios is hard to justify as it was indeed complex.
Buffalo has its own unique story to be sure, but it is reflected in many post indusrtial cities throughout the northeast and midwest.
But Buffalo has one thing that most others do not. That would be the wealth of outstanding architectural stock that can be preserved in spite of the fact that so much has been lost. Buffalo has the willingness,the sentiment and people to ensure that it will be.
Considering the loss of so many liquor stores, Buffalo has suffered dramatically since 1969.
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That yellow caddy in the "before" shot is only 9 years old and it is already devoured by rust.
I think attitudes toward the city in general have improved since the Brock Yates story. The rise of historic preservation since then is a good example of improved civic self esteme in spite of economic decline. Istead of simply demo-start from scratch, more people see value in some of the most simple parts of the urban fabric. Heck, even the Ellicott-Talbert high rises were worthy of preservation and restoration and they were once universally regarded as total failures.
also that caddy is diagonally parked on the street. Imagine doing that down Main st now.