City December 8, 2009 12:02 PM

Lafayette Avenue Presbyterian Takes Innovative Direction

Lafayette Avenue Presbyterian Takes Innovative Direction
Why wait for death before rebirth?  Though this concept isn't one his religion beliefs for humans, it certainly holds appeal for Reverend Drew Ludwig where his church building is concerned.  Ludwig, a regular BR contributor and reverend of Lafayette Avenue Presbyterian Church, has plans for the reconfiguration and reuse of his church building, while his congregation lives on.

Simply put, Ludwig's congregation will be unaffected, while the 60,000 sq. ft. church will sustain its own costs through the renovation of two-thirds of the building into 21 apartments.

"I love this church, both the architectural church building and the people that make it up," Ludwig says.  "But we've been following unsustainable model for years.  It worked for a while when there was significant wealth in the market, but that stopped."  The economy changed along with the notion that a church would throw open its doors and the people would come in and lavish money on it.  Ludwig found he had to make cuts.  We took a hit," he says. "As a community centered resource to our neighborhood and caretakers of the building, we knew we couldn't carry on this way."

Enter creative reuse, or rather, co-use. Ludwig says a lot of churches find themselves in tough financial times; some quit and some struggle, but he's taking a different path.  Rather than allow the church to die a slow death, Ludwig will use his resources to reinvent the architectural aspect of the building so that it produces income to care for itself, while leaving the congregation whole.  Most salient for the holy man forced to think about dollars - something he says he didn't go to school for - the congregation will cease to see their money being sucked into exorbitant gas bills and upkeep, and they can instead see their donations used for mission and ministry within their neighborhood.

"We've seen reuse of churches," Ludwig says, and rattles off a few in the near vicinity: Parish commons, Bryant parish, Babeville and the Karpeles Manuscript Library and Museum buildings.  "On top of that, I'm from Pittsburgh, and there are cool church reuses there as well.  The question is: why does a congregation have to fold before a good use is made of the structure?"  Ludwig notes that the enormous allotment of space is not used to capacity, or used well. "It was built for a different generation and neighborhood, with different ideas about how to serve it," he explains.  

Ludwig goes on to say that when an organization is in decline, it's hard to get people to give, but by finding a way to become sustainable, it allows people to be more generous where it counts.  "In recent years we've demonstrated we're not interested in being a club for a few people.  The best way to evaluate a religion is how it treats the non-adherents," he states." Ludwig believes that his church's presence in the community at large will make people of all beliefs "glad that there are Christians on the corner of Elmwood and Lafayette.  We live for the good of other people."  

The 21 units of market rate apartments - not low income, not subsidized, and not designated for the congregation or any other sub-set - will be on level with housing in the immediate area. "Not super expensive, not super cheap," Ludwig explains.  "It's in a building on the National Register of Historic Places, and the apartments will have high ceilings and beautiful old windows."

He says the church will still have worship space, a large community room, smaller rooms for board meetings and Alcoholics Anonymous.  "We'll still have Loaves and Fishes and The Right Place for kids.  We'll upgrade all of those, all while producing funds to take care of the building.  I see it as win, win, win; it's an upgrade for the building, which will pay for itself to function in the coming years, and current users get to maintain their presence."  And some lucky souls will get to live there.

Because the funding sought is through tax credits for reuse of a historic site, condos are not an option, according to Ludwig.  He says there is no scheduled date for the beginning of construction, as funding is still needed to close that gap.  "Right now, we've raised enough funds to talk about it.  Our hope is spend 2010 securing funds, with construction beginning in spring of 2011, but I can't say with certainty."  Ludwig has an architect in Clinton Brown, but no developer as of yet.  "Most funding will come from the congregation; we'll muddle with a mortgage against the value of the current property and a plan for the new property.  We'll take a mortgage of around $3.5 million, and that's conservative against what we will borrow.  Add that to tax credits and a grant, and it will get us to 65 to 70 percent of the total cost of project, which is estimated at $7.9 million."  

Ludwig agrees that the numbers sound scary.  "It is scary; I went to school to be a minister, to learn to pray the bible, perform weddings, not to be a real estate developer.  I'm not a numbers guy or finance guy.  This has been an education, but I look forward to the time when I don't have to be this guy and can go back to ministry for good, but this is a step in the path.  I need a new way to support the ministry."  

When word of the project came out, Ludwig was beseeched with two questions.  One was a misunderstanding that thought the ministry was closing; it is not.  The other involves parking. "We will need more parking for apartments, but 15 parking spaces aren't adequate, regardless of use.  One of places we'll add parking is at our playground [on St. James], which we hope and plan to make into a better, nicer playground on the Elmwood lawn. We are proud we've shared the playground with the community and we want to continue to do so.  The parking will be done with sensitivity to our St. James neighbors, with an approach on Laffayette and entrance into the Lafayette side of the building.  The 9 tenants with spaces on the St. James side will be the only people with keys to the St. James door.  This will minimize vehicular and people traffic on that street."

On Thursday, December 10th, at 4PM, Ludwig will hold a reception at the church with a slideshow and discussion about what he hopes to accomplish.  He's already had initial talks with neighbors, and says this won't be an intense public forum, but he's hoping to gather supporters and friends so they can work with the church.  "It's a friend-raising, educational session," Ludwig says, "so people can talk about this in an informed way."  



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I live down the street and am totally supportive.

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Better they do something like that now rather than when the church is falling apart and in danger of being demolished. I too live down the street, and am all for it...but I'm also far enough down that it wouldn't have an impact on me either way so I suppose my opinion is somewhat moot...

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Rev. & Mrs. Ludwig, a thoughtful building committee, a supportive congregation, and the outstanding professionals at Clinton Brown Associates deserve great credit for this innovative project plan. It's a major leap of faith, but one which I believe will benefit the congregation and the Elmwood Village.

The concept of adaptive reuse of portions of a church while retaining and strengthening the congregation and mission also expands the repertoire of tools and options for preserving our priceless heritage of religious structures, designed for greater numbers and different times.

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rev. drew, you still get my vote for transplant of the year!

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@RaChaCha. Mrs. Ludwig is my Mom. She didn't have much to do with this. My wife has a different name, and is a huge support to me, but was not actively involved in this plan.

@Everybody: thanks! I hope you can come to the meeting Thursday to see more of the plan and show your support.

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I just had the most fascinating vision while looking at the pictures of the Presbyterian Church with its medina sandstone and terra-cotta roof. I had read that the roof to the Richardson on Forest Avenue was not originally copper but of terra-cotta.

To imagine the original contrast between the medina sandstone and the terra-cotta roof on the Richardson in the past or in a full restoration, then one might want to visit the Presbyterian Church to see what a difference it makes to the over-all appearance.

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Without trying to be negative, I will run some numbers for Ludwig.

At $7.9m, property taxes on the project should be estimated at $316,000 per year. This equates to $15,047 per year for each of the 21 units. In other words monthly tax cost per unit is approximately $1,254.

All the other projects listed either were foreclosed on, ran into financial difficulties, had governmental help, or were tax-free.

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It has become very popular in Bflo to build heavily-subsidized housing units into closed schools, churches, factories, stores & warehouses. However, it is not clear that the developer-driven approach is 'sustainable'.

In the 2nd poorest US city with a massive surplus of housing (currently 25,000-plus vacant units?), that reality creates a moral dilemma for a church planning upscale apartments, heavily relying on subsidies.

In a shrinking city, every new housing unit likely creates a (taxpayer-funded) demolition elsewhere. A more responsible approach would utilize subsidies to stabilize struggling neighborhoods using a combination of rehab & demolition. And a PR campaign should promote home ownership for young upwardly-mobile folks targeted by all the pricey new units built where folks never lived when the city was over 2X bigger.

Lafayette Presbyterian has a tough (moral) dilemma . how to save its building . . without 'robbing' from 100's of struggling neighborhoods.

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@Tim, thanks for the help, but not all of the $7.9mm goes on the tax rolls, and we are seeking governmental help.

@Dick Kern You make some good points, but I am not really all that conflicted--here's why:

The money that we are applying for is not housing money, it is preservation money. While 100s more could be helped with the housing money, I think we are an excellent preservation project.

Secondly, those that would be moving into these apartments are not those that are likely to move into homes that are going to be demo'd.

Also, while home ownership IS good, and I actively DO work to promote--particularly on the West Side (I am becoming a coach of a homebuyer club). But sometimes, renting is the best choice--basically anytime you don't expect to be in a city for 5 years.

Finally, consider the nature of the project. Either we do the project (with some help) or another group does (also with some help) or a giant historic building goes vacant (eventually) and a block on one of the best strees in buffalo with it.

This is what preservation money is for--so we continue to use beautiful old buildings, even when throwing them away would be cheaper.

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@Rev. Drew, according to our City Assessor Martin Kennedy, all of the cost in renovation should be added to the assessed value - this figure comes right from the building permits.

Personally I would like to see abandoned churches in Buffalo become mausoleums.

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Well done Ludwig. Even if the master plan is still evolving you are being proactive, transparent (that is refreshing) and proactive in this process.

I do agree that the numbers may be difficult to work, at present, but you have a vision and mission...which is 80% of the battle.

Might you pull in an advisory committee of locals/ parishioners who might complement your vision with capabilities with which you might not be as strong (quantitative, financial analysis, etc.--there needs to be real clarity around making this work from a numbers perspective)?

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Who will be designing these apartments? A local architect?

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