Lafayette Avenue Presbyterian Takes Innovative Direction
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Leave a commentBetter they do something like that now rather than when the church is falling apart and in danger of being demolished. I too live down the street, and am all for it...but I'm also far enough down that it wouldn't have an impact on me either way so I suppose my opinion is somewhat moot...
Rev. & Mrs. Ludwig, a thoughtful building committee, a supportive congregation, and the outstanding professionals at Clinton Brown Associates deserve great credit for this innovative project plan. It's a major leap of faith, but one which I believe will benefit the congregation and the Elmwood Village.
The concept of adaptive reuse of portions of a church while retaining and strengthening the congregation and mission also expands the repertoire of tools and options for preserving our priceless heritage of religious structures, designed for greater numbers and different times.
rev. drew, you still get my vote for transplant of the year!
@RaChaCha. Mrs. Ludwig is my Mom. She didn't have much to do with this. My wife has a different name, and is a huge support to me, but was not actively involved in this plan.
@Everybody: thanks! I hope you can come to the meeting Thursday to see more of the plan and show your support.
I just had the most fascinating vision while looking at the pictures of the Presbyterian Church with its medina sandstone and terra-cotta roof. I had read that the roof to the Richardson on Forest Avenue was not originally copper but of terra-cotta.
To imagine the original contrast between the medina sandstone and the terra-cotta roof on the Richardson in the past or in a full restoration, then one might want to visit the Presbyterian Church to see what a difference it makes to the over-all appearance.
Without trying to be negative, I will run some numbers for Ludwig.
At $7.9m, property taxes on the project should be estimated at $316,000 per year. This equates to $15,047 per year for each of the 21 units. In other words monthly tax cost per unit is approximately $1,254.
All the other projects listed either were foreclosed on, ran into financial difficulties, had governmental help, or were tax-free.
It has become very popular in Bflo to build heavily-subsidized housing units into closed schools, churches, factories, stores & warehouses. However, it is not clear that the developer-driven approach is 'sustainable'.
In the 2nd poorest US city with a massive surplus of housing (currently 25,000-plus vacant units?), that reality creates a moral dilemma for a church planning upscale apartments, heavily relying on subsidies.
In a shrinking city, every new housing unit likely creates a (taxpayer-funded) demolition elsewhere. A more responsible approach would utilize subsidies to stabilize struggling neighborhoods using a combination of rehab & demolition. And a PR campaign should promote home ownership for young upwardly-mobile folks targeted by all the pricey new units built where folks never lived when the city was over 2X bigger.
Lafayette Presbyterian has a tough (moral) dilemma . how to save its building . . without 'robbing' from 100's of struggling neighborhoods.
@Tim, thanks for the help, but not all of the $7.9mm goes on the tax rolls, and we are seeking governmental help.
@Dick Kern You make some good points, but I am not really all that conflicted--here's why:
The money that we are applying for is not housing money, it is preservation money. While 100s more could be helped with the housing money, I think we are an excellent preservation project.
Secondly, those that would be moving into these apartments are not those that are likely to move into homes that are going to be demo'd.
Also, while home ownership IS good, and I actively DO work to promote--particularly on the West Side (I am becoming a coach of a homebuyer club). But sometimes, renting is the best choice--basically anytime you don't expect to be in a city for 5 years.
Finally, consider the nature of the project. Either we do the project (with some help) or another group does (also with some help) or a giant historic building goes vacant (eventually) and a block on one of the best strees in buffalo with it.
This is what preservation money is for--so we continue to use beautiful old buildings, even when throwing them away would be cheaper.
@Rev. Drew, according to our City Assessor Martin Kennedy, all of the cost in renovation should be added to the assessed value - this figure comes right from the building permits.
Personally I would like to see abandoned churches in Buffalo become mausoleums.
Well done Ludwig. Even if the master plan is still evolving you are being proactive, transparent (that is refreshing) and proactive in this process.
I do agree that the numbers may be difficult to work, at present, but you have a vision and mission...which is 80% of the battle.
Might you pull in an advisory committee of locals/ parishioners who might complement your vision with capabilities with which you might not be as strong (quantitative, financial analysis, etc.--there needs to be real clarity around making this work from a numbers perspective)?
Who will be designing these apartments? A local architect?
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I live down the street and am totally supportive.