Real Estate November 11, 2009 11:45 AM

Lake Hotel Renovation Proceeding

Lake Hotel Renovation Proceeding

The long-vacant Lake Hotel at 201 West Huron Street will be converted into upscale apartments under a plan by Kissling Interests.  Work on the $1.1 million reuse project is expected to be underway around the first of the year.

Kissling has retained architecture, engineering and interior design firm Carmina Wood Morris to prepare the reuse plan.  The roof has been leaking, so there is quite a bit of water damage throughout. 

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"There is a lot of deterioration in the roof slab, but otherwise the structure looks sound," said Jonathan H. Morris, AIA.  "The masonry is good for the most part, with some isolated areas where repointing and repair will be required."

The plan is to gut the interior, Kissling is currently cleaning out all the loose garbage and debris and airing out the building, and then go back in and create eight market-rate apartments, four on the first floor and two each on the 2nd and 3rd floors. 

"We will be preparing the Historic Preservation Certification Application for submission to NYSHPO and National Parks Service for tax credits," Morris said.  "The outside of the building will be restored to original appearance.  Inside the building, there is some historic fabric in the central stairwell and each unit has an historic fireplace in the living space."

The backyard will be landscaped for use by the residents and Kissling is negotiating for off-street parking for the building.   

According to Scott LaCasse, Executive Vice President of Kissling Interests, the building should be ready for occupancy in June.

"The units will be ideal for work/live tenants," said LaCasse.  "We are planning beautiful kitchens and baths with an open floor plan."

Seven of the apartments will be two bedroom, two bath units averaging around 1,000 sq.ft.  The eighth unit is a one bedroom, one bath handicapped adaptable unit on the first floor.  Rents are expected to be in the $1500/month range.

Get Connected: Kissling, 716.853.2787

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I'm happy to see this is still moving forward. Last I heard it was held up because of concerns of parking by neighbors. That is the most absurd thing that I have heard, we're talking no more than 15 cars assuming every occupant has a vehicle. I hope the neighbors get out of the way of this really important and neccesary renovation. It is one nicer buildings in the West Village that managed to keep the facade intact. I just want to strangle the idiots that are opposed to this.

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Looks like (from the rendering) they are planning to strip away some interesting detail around the arched windows at each side.

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It's hard to tell from the rendering, but more importantly if they plan to receive historic tax credits from SHPO they will have to preserve or maintain the original facade design as much as humanly possible.

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Living one block away from this building I am very excited! I have lived in t he West Village for almost 6 years now and the transformation in the time I have lived here has been incredible.

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You deserve some credit for that transformation. I remember how run down Prospect-Carolina was before you moved in and fixed things up.

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I think there needs to be a master plan for the larger neighborhood.

My recommendation is to continue the new developments such as townhomes, condos, apartment towers between Niagara Street and the Niagara River.

My recommendation is to then set more strict historic zoning codes for the area between Niagara Street and the interior residential portion of Elmwood. I mean full tilt...replica gas street lights, brick/cobblestone streets, curbs, flagstone sidewalks, canopy height trees, etc. Make this area all the way up to BlackRock...the equivalent of Boston, Philadelphia, Providence, Charleston, Savannah, etc.

(PS, the interior residential streets between Elmwood and Delaware...and the interior streets between Delaware and Main also have potential for similar historic status).

Old Buffalo and New Buffalo!

One way to take the architectural and cultural heritage of Buffalo and escalate it into the major leagues.

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Christine,

Hey, I'm totally with you. Let's be honest though, I've been in Allentown for almost 10 years. The day I moved in, Allen Street was in such poor shape (in terms of paving) that it felt like it had been bombed. This is the center of Allentown for christ sake it is supposed to ALREADY be nice. Guess what, in these 10 years it still isn't paved. I bet it has been 20 years since it was last re-done. Look all around Allentown. You can tell that the streets USED TO be nice but every single one is falling apart. Friends of mine from Europe make fun of how crappy the roads are here. I really hope the city figures out how to fix Allentown AND do what you are suggesting, but really if there isn't money to keep up already existing "nice" neighborhoods, well there certainly isn't money to create a new one.

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I've only been gone from Buffalo for a little over a year, but since when is "market rate" $1500 a month for 1000 sq. ft.???

My last apartment in Buffalo was on Pennsylvania Street across from Kleinhans, and it was a two level, two bedroom, two bath that was close 1800 sq ft, and I only paid $600 a month plus utilities!

I know that was a steal, but the fact that I paid less than half of what they're talking about for nearly twice as much square footage seems a little strange to me...


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Yeah thats high even for downtown. I guess thats good news as long as they stay rented.

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I THNK THIS IS GREAT FOR THOSE WHOM ARE NOT READY TO BUY WHILE LIVING DOWN TOWN.

YES IT WOULD THEN BE NICE IF IN USING OUR RESTORE AMERICA GRANT MONIES THAT THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE WEST VILLAGE TOOK PLACE.

I FIND IT KIND OF INTERESTING THAT AT THE WHITNEY CONDOS, YOU CAN BUY AN ELVEN-HUNDRED SQUARE FOOT (1,100 SQ/FT) CONDO FOR $119,000.

THATS BORROWING $111,000 @ 6% = $665.50/MONTH OVER 30 YEARS
FIRST TIME HOME BUYER INCENTIVE WHICH THE OWNER IS WILLING TO TAKE AS THE ONLY DOWN PAYMENT OF $8,000, THAT HE WILL BE WILLING TO WAIT FOR 6 WEEKS TO GET AFTER CLOSING.
MONTHLY MAINTENANCE OF $225.00/MONTH
INSURANCE OF APROXAMENTLY $50.00/MONTH
TAXES OF APROXIMENTLY $50.00/MONTH AND THATS WITH OUT THE STAR INCENTIVE,
IF WE STILL GET IT?
SO YOU CAN OWN AN 1100 SQ FT CONDO FOR $990.50
APROXIMENTLY PER MONTH WITH YOUR OWN OFF STREET PARKING, FREE LAUNDRY AND LARGE STORAGE SPACE

SO YES IF YOU WANT TO GIVE SOMEONE $1,500/MONTH FOR THIER BENEFIT, THATS GREAT! BUT LOOK INTO OWNING RIGHT NOW AND REALIZE THAT NO GOVERNMENT INCENTIVES, TAX CREDITS OR PUBLIC MONIES WENT INTO THE WHITNEY CONDOS!!!!! AND YES, IT IS STILL A GREAT DEAL!!!!

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IS THIS YOUR 1ST TIME ON THE INTERNET? TYPING IN ALL CAPS MEANS YOU ARE YELLING. Where have you been for the last 10 years? There is also this magic thing called spell check...

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I see your point, why pay more in rent when you can own for less on the same street essentially. However there are lots of people who don't want to commit to home/condo ownership. It's a big commitment. Also, just because you can afford $1500 a month doesn't mean you can afford that amount for more than a year. Therefore if you want luxary living without the commitment renting is a better option. Also I have a friend doing his residency at ECMC. He can afford to but a condo but he is not here permanently so renting works better. Not to mention the home buying process takes forever in NYS so if you're here for only a year or so take 3 months off the top for the closing process. BTW the Whitney condos are overpriced, I'll sell you my entire 2000 sq ft house fully renovated with higher end materials for 160K tomorrow. I live at the begining of Whitney Pl.

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brownteeth - thanks for your offer but I'm not in the market for a single family home without parking. In order to compare The Whitney which are 1093' for $109K you have to look at other condominiums not single family homes.

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I was being somewhat sarcastic but anyway my point was that you also have to consider that even with $1500/ mnth rent, these are mostly 2 bedroom units which would suggest two people splitting rent, $750 each which is not ridiculous.

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What a wonderful project for the Lake District

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Since when is this the Lake District?

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It isn't. This is the West Village. Sally is just Silly.

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LOL , good grins.

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This is wonderful news, and to be ready by June seems so quick. I can't wait to see the transformation. As for the first comment, I totally agree, I don't see how people would be opposed to parking issues. I believe, if you live and work downtown, WHY do you need a car? EVERYTHING is withen walking distance or a bus stop away. I'm so amazed at how much better downtown has become in the last few years. Main Street seems more alive these days after 5pm during the week. And a few businesses are staying open past the old 5 or 5:30pm curfew and still have customers well into the evening. I find it easier to just walk, take the FREE metro rail (above ground of course) or a bus (it's only $4 for an all day pass for ALL ZONES, come on). I thought the whole purpose of downtown living was to live the true urban life? No need for a car, everything is steps away.

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Yeah, the whole point of urban living is the denisty and livliness of the city. I mean if you want more space and easier parking you probably should reconsider living in the center of a city. I live two streets over on Whitney and don't have a driveway but I rarely ever have trouble parking right in front of my house. It always kills me when people in cities complain about parking and noise, etc. Move to the suburbs and let someone who appreciates living in the city move in. Unfortunately I don't work in the city or I would walk more but I still make do and so can the neighbors who are concerned about parking, besides Rabin terrace residents have driveways and street parking so what's the fuss?

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June does seem to be quick.

Keep in mind that this is a Kissling venture, and not once since they arrived on the housing scene have they completed a project anywhere near the date they claimed it would be done.

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The website of "The Cooperage" says it'll be ready in June 2010, also. Send your nonrefundable $500 deposit, quick !

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upscale housing is awesome. and it sounds great in news reports. but how often is "affordable housing" or "affordable, upscale housing" reported? my recent search for a city apartment showed me there are alot of nice places in the city. but how bout young professionals. there are some nice rent limited places: ansonia, holling, etc. but most of them are packed. and i'm sure their rent will go up once their rent limit committment expires. am i wrong? i'm expecting responses to be that i should look harder.

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Look harder.

Also, this is Buffalo, and sadly, who you know is AT LEAST as important as what you know.

You want to jump the line at one of these packed buildings you mention? Find a name to drop.

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