City October 5, 2009 11:23 AM

Summit Building Façade to be Spared

Summit Building Façade to be Spared

The City is moving to save the Summit Building's façade utilizing funding from a recently approved Restore New York grant.  The future of the City-owned building at 918 Main Street in the Allentown Historic Preservation District has been as shaky as its collapsing roof.  Work will involve bracing the building's masonry façade to save it for future redevelopment.

The Buffalo News' Mark Sommer has the story:

The city hasn't always supported trying to save the building, and in 2004 an agency within the Masiello administration unsuccessfully sought demolition approval from the Buffalo Preservation Board.

But the policy now is to "preserve that facade because of its aesthetic and historic value," said Brian Reilly, commissioner of economic development, permits and inspections.

Reilly said the abandoned building the city took ownership of nearly 10 years ago has presented a difficult challenge.

"918 [Main] is the last of eight abandoned structures [on the block] that the city acquired through foreclosure. It was the most problematic due to legal and physical challenges," he said. 

Reilly said the city hopes to find private-sector redevelopment for the building and possibly adjacent properties, located near the expanding Buffalo Niagara Medical Campus.

The cost to stabilize the building is estimated between $300,000 and $500,000, Reilly said.

The four-story, Richardsonian Romanesque building is located next to the Red Jacket Apartments, south of Allen Street.  It is a former carriage factory built in the 1880's and designed by Cyrus K. Porter, a well-known Buffalo architect.  While the front facade is intact, neighbors say the roof started collapsing over three years ago.

Greanleaf Real Estate purchased the building next door at 916 Main Street in late-2008.  The real estate management and development company has not announced plans for its three-story building.

In April Greenleaf General Manager James Swiezy, told Buffalo Rising, "We continue to work on a feasible project." He refused to say whether he is working with City officials on a plan to redevelop both properties.

Work on the Summit Building's stabilization could begin this year.

 

 


 

 

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While this is good news, I question the fact the work "could be" started this year. Do they honestly think that it is going to survive another Buffalo winter when the roof began to collapse over 3 years ago?

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thanks... but where were you 3 years ago to fix the hole in the roof so that the building could be saved over just its facade.

Either way I am happy that, at least, the facade can be saved and the removal of the interior building will probably make reuse a lot easier.

What about the rear facade?

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It'll have to go. Getting equipment in to put up structural steel necessitates the removal of ther rear facade and while it might be restored afterwards, that would be expensive and might interfere with a new owner's plans.

replied to Sean Brodfuehrer
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good to see, i walk by this building all the time, work on the previous block and live just a few blocks away. I've always wondered when they would do something about it before you either lost the building entirely or it collapsed and caused someone injury. The reason they aren't sure when they'll be able to get started is because they're not sure when that grant money will come in. It's great that we applied and were approved for a grant that can be used for this cause, but once you're approved for a grant it's essentially a waiting game. the city can't start preservation of the building until it has the money in its hands... and unfortunately money seems to move pretty slow nowadays.

this could be a pretty intriguing investment for a developer with the right vision. you basically have the freedom of building an entirely new, modern building from the ground up with the bonus of having a 19th century facade to give it character and historic relevance... could be a lot of fun for the right person with the right checkbook...

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Appears to be a tree or two, growing within. The City has had this for 10 years - there's no excuse for allowing it to deteriorate this way.

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The City of Buffalo has by default become one of the largest property owners and should put in place a plan to manage these very important assets. A team capable of assessing and securing the properties followed by a triage team with special attention given to temporary roof repairs would go a long way towards protecting these structures for future re-use.
We continue to demolish the very best we have along with the junk. Our unique old buildings are a finite and irreplaceable resource that should be preserved. It is the one thing we have to attract and inspire residents and business to come back to the city.

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It's always someone else... The City has asked that the preservation community to put together a list/registry of important buildings in the City so going forward, there is a clear understanding of what is the "very best" and what is "junk." Again, the City has asked Tim Tielman and his Board several times for this, but it has never been delivered.

The logic goes, after the list has been developed, knee jerk reactions to the excess inventory and demolitions projects could be avoided. Next steps such as as registering the buildings could be taken to further protect the "best" inventory. But this has fallen on deaf. It is not the City's fault here, sorry. They have asked for help repeatedly and have been turned down. I wonder why? I wonder why this is never covered?

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Karl, The city has a preservation board that should be able to provide this service but they are not very powerful or given the resources to carry this out.
There is not a "clear understanding of what is the very best and what is junk" as few would recognize some of the truly historic structures that are hidden beneath layers of modern materials. Here in Black Rock I have seen very early timber frames houses that would be considered "historic" in any other area demolished without notice. A building here linked to the underground railroad was demolished early one Sunday after we began an effort to protect it.
I have seen city owned homes broken into and stripped because nobody checked on them and of course if the neighbors don't cut the grass or shovel the snow it just doesn't get done.
The city needs a plan, not just to protect the assets that continue to disappear but to hold on to and attract the residents that will make it possible.

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Right, the City does have a Preservation Board, and this is the same Board the former Commissioner of Economic Development repeatedly requested that a registry be created. I don’t buy their excuses then and I don’t buy your excuses now.

Let me ask the simple question: how hard is it to compile a list and then categorize in terms of historic importance? You can list all the excuses you want. They don’t have the capability (get the public to volunteer, seems to be a lot of people out there involved judging by this blog), they don’t have the resources (apply for a grant, or again volunteer). The City has ask for involvement and has not received any response. Is it their fault? Why is it always someone elses fault? Why is it always someone else responsibility?

The list of structures the City owns is finite, so it shouldn’t be that hard to figure out what in the inventory is historically important and what is not. Life is full of tough choices, so proactively figure out a process to categorize them.

The City asked the Historic Board develop the list so as to not create the list in a vacuum which would open itself to all sort of criticism from people like you. Once the list is compiled and catalogued in terms of historic value, then the logic goes, the City can focus on the saving those at the top and reducing inventory at the bottom. The City is shrinking.

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Karl- You ask "how hard is it to compile a list and categorize in terms of historic importance?"
Well here in Black Rock we have devoted countless volunteer hours to just such an effort and we are just now moving forward in awarding a contract for a historic resources survey. This effort has been ongoing and our committee has been meeting for 2-3 years to establish the Black Rock Historic District. Our small neighborhood consists of about 5 square blocks so you should get an idea on just how much work it would take to do something like this citywide.

You seem quick to criticize preservationists but fail to see that our efforts have resulted in great improvements in many of our neighborhoods. We do the work and invest our own time and money into making Buffalo a better place.

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Why is your survey limited to five square blocks? A list of interesting structures occupies a larger footprint.

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Paul- We are working in phases as our grant money is limited. The first phase is to look at the early village area centered around lower Amherst St., second phase pushes North to Hertel/Grace, third phase looks East towards Amherst and Military.

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When you're finished, be sure to hide any lecturns you may have standing around so the Mayor doesn't appear suddenly and take credit for your group's hard work. I hope you write an article about your group's efforts because it would make for interesting reading.

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I am not quick to attack preservationists at all, just quick to defend the City as they tried a proactive approach but were snubbed. I commend you for what you are trying to accomplish in BR, sounds like a great case study for lessons learned/etc. to apply toward a City-wide approach.

I also agree that it would require a lot of hard work, most difficult situations do to overcome them if you want success at the end.

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I think its a very smart move for our future.

Its only going to make this long contiguous main street frontage more valuable for redevelopment by the expanding life sciences district.

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I own one of the properties that the rear facade abuts, whom do I contact about what exactly the plans are as it impacts my property?

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would be very interested in talking about your property contact me @ romy1965@yahoo.com

replied to cooper71
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Blackrock, you just don't understand: The Preservation Board is responsible for the roof collapsing because they failed to put this building on a list. The City can't be expected to maintain its own property without be told by somebody else - that would involve City employees paying attention and maybe doing their jobs.

I think I'll stop making repairs on my house until some entity makes up a list; it won't be my fault if the chimneys fall on somebody.

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I agree, maybe a list of properties moving forward would help prevent this but it is no excuse for letting a building deteriorate for 10 years. When I was a kid I used to pull that move. If taking out the garbage wasn't on my list of chores I didn't do it even though it clearly needed to be taken to the curb, then I would say it wasn't my fault because it wasn't on the list. The difference is that as an adult I am now accountable for my inaction. The city should know better, after all they spent time and some money putting barriers in front of this building to protect people from falling debris. How about putting that effort toward fixing the problem?

replied to MrGreenJeans
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A list is impossible to create because it becomes static. The city would take such a list and just go and demolish everything not on the list.

Also, much of our history is still hidden, behind vinyl, in some old book yet to be discovered. That you can't just make a list and hope that it solves our problems.

A list would be useful but it would also need to be amendable and it still wouldn't stop the last minute fight because inevitably something will have been overlooked or new circumstances would arise that put a building in danger when it wasn't at the creation of the list.

The only benefit of such a list would be for the city to say... well it's not on the list, so down it comes.

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Your wrong...or should I say your thinking is out of date.

Everyone is familiar with WIKIPEDIA (aka wiki). Its a distributed dictionary/encyclopedia that the public maintains and WIKIPEDIA monitors.

Encouraging the public to create and maintain the list whether it be John or Jane Q Public or a neighborhood/community block club...it would distribute maintenance down to the very people that have the most interest and knowledge of their surrounding community.

The city, the inspectors and the courts could reference it and monitor it.

replied to Sean Brodfuehrer
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that's a good idea.

replied to Christine
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Well put. Anything unlisted is automatically expendable.

If you hate battles over a threatened structures, just wait for what ensues when my house merits listing but yours does not. Or a notable building is omitted because Mr. Developer wants more surface parking and he is a big mayoral campaign contributor. Anyone remember how desperate Paladino was to demolish the Webb building?

The other weakness of a list is that it disregards the ensemble effect. A 1920s bungalow by itself may be ordinary, but blocks full of them in intact condition is quite special, as Pasadena discovered.

Or in the case of business districts, a multi-story mixed use storefront built to the sidewalk might lack architectural distinction but as part of an unbroken street facade, it becomes irreplaceable. Literally irreplaceable, if zoning codes require anything built in its footprint to have a minimum number of off-street parking spaces, thus rendering infill construction impossible.

Context is as important as whether a particular building ranks high as an isolated art object.

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tear that dump down *

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Karl says the City instructed the Preservation Board to establish a registry of some kind. When was this? I searched the Snooze archives back three years with no success.

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It was before Reilly was in charge. It is not in the News it was never communicated through public channels, this would just entrench the PB. It was communicated through memos regarding to and from the Commission of ED and PB. FOIA it.

The idea the list becomes static is absurd. I commend Blackrock, that is the type of effort everyone is looking for, you get buy in at the local level and it gives the City a priority list to work from. It is a team apporach, bottom up.

The next step communicated again to the PB (not my words, but I agree with them) is to apply buildings at the top of the list for National Register status and/or state status which would protect the top tier buildings on the list, preserving their legacy from any demolition. This would reduce he said/she said as NR status is the gold standard.

Criticize it all you want, but it is a solid model with buy-in from multiple stakeholders, reducing knee jerk reactions to demolition by a proactive, strategic approach

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Christine's idea would negate the static list criticism. I agree with you that buy in from many stakeholders is needed and I agree with her that the public would buy in if a Wikipedia type resource were available to it; look at all the comments readers here leave whenever a potentially noteworthy structure is threatened.

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Oh, my, god! The roof actually IS collapsed and that is a very OLD, unprotected brick exterior.
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And it is extremely windy, again... And winter is coming soon, again...
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The pic above does not show the barricades (which are much too close to be safe.)
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There shouldn't be any kids living in that area, but, do school buses pass by or drop off kids anyway near 918 Main Street?

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Save it or knock it down, it doesn't matter to me. JUST REOPEN THE SIDEWALK! How long has it been closed off for now? A couple of years?

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