City October 7, 2009 3:05 PM

So Important - A New Roof!

So Important - A New Roof!

I just heard from some of our Blackrock friends that the Breckenridge Meeting House (aka Union Meeting House) is in the process of getting a new roof.  "So what?" you ask.  Well, the Breckenridge Meeting House, formerly the Breckenridge Presbyterian Church, is Buffalo's oldest church building.  

It was built in 1827 (that's EIGHTEEN TWENTY SEVEN), almost 200 years ago (that's TWO HUNDRED YEARS), by the American War of 1812 general Peter Porter.  The building has been underutilized and in a general state of neglect for several decades, reportedly receiving many code violation citations in recent years.  I am told it is owned by the multibillion-dollar Buffalo company, Rich Products.

A roof is the first line of defense in protecting historic buildings.  In Buffalo we know all too well what happens when owners neglect to invest in roof maintenance.  The Webb Building   was recently brought back from the dead after its roof collapsed due to lack of roof repair.  

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White's livery also partially collapsed due to lack of roof maintenance.  It has been partially demolished and awaits the start of reconstruction as an apartment building.  The most recent roof related historic heritage disaster is the Summit Building on Main near Allen.  Its interior also collapsed due to water leaking through its roof.  It now awaits a half million-dollar grant from the state, to be used to shore up its walls while a development plan is put together.  It has been reported that a $50,000 roof investment 10 years ago would have avoided all of this damage.  $500,000 or $50,000 or tear down the building - which is the wise investment? 

Thankfully, Rich Products has chosen what I would deem the wise investment.  A new roof on this massively historic Buffalo building will at minimum save it for another generation.  In that amount of time a new use could be found.  Anyone want to bet that there is a nice party in a renovated Breckenridge Meeting House in 2028?  For those who don't do math in their heads that would be its 200th birthday.

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Images are from Buffalo as an Architectural Museum, where you can find a more images and a history of the building, as well as more on General Porter.

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The Union Meeting house once commanded quite a view of the Niagara River and Erie Canal. Even today standing at the foot of Breckenridge St. one can get a sense of the dignity and presence of this building sitting on a slight rise above the street.

The roof problems at this building were ignored by Rich Products for many years. Even after repeated calls to the building inspector Rich made no effort to make repairs. In the past 2 years large areas on both sides were wide open to the elements resulting in untold interior damage. I spoke to the building inspector about 2 months ago and he assured me Rich would soon address the outstanding citations. Incredible that they were able to avoid responsibilty for so long without ending up in court.

I stopped by to take a look at the job and was dismayed to see large sections of the beautiful dentil moldings broken away and missing from the frieze that was previously intact. The roofers made no effort to preserve this original and irreplaceable millwork nor did they salvage the shingle mold that was attached to the original fascia. This building certainly deserves better and Rich Products should be ashamed of their lack of good stewardship.

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how disappointing. Good they're putting on a roof. Bad they're doing a poor job. What was/is Rich's motivation for owning?

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City records show the last sale in 1993, @ $225,000 . I would guess that Rich just wanted the lot (182 x 161), maybe for parking.

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I believe they just wanted to increase their footprint for future developement. They may have been unaware of the buildings significance and decided after the fact that demo would be controversial. The building has sat unattended ever since, maybe to allow it to become unsalvageable.
In 1978 Rich demolished the Stickney House. It was built in 1819 and was considered the oldest house in the city. It stood next to their outlet store on Niagara. They had assured then Councilman Joel Giambra they wouldn't tear anything down without prior consultation but early one Sunday morning it was reduced to a pile of rubble.
Rich Products is certainly an asset to our city and I realize their focus is not historic preservation. Still acquiring historic buildings brings a certain degree of responsibility and Rich certainly has the means to preserve this important structure.

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All of Buffalo could use a big visit from the Roof Fairy :)

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LOL! But you did get that right; although I suspect you only mean the city.
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Take a drive around suburban neighborhoods, many of which are old now--old towns--old villages. Look up at the roofs... see what real estate "investors" see and appreciate for their transient tenants... ugh! ugh! ugh! ugh! ugh!

If ever anything real could come of preserving buildings, especially houses and neighborhoods throughout WNY, and once again fostering families and AFFORDABLE home ownership, it would be the roof replacement industries that would flourish first in western New York.
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Necessitating magnets that charter education into those skilled labor fields.
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Imagine all the the many other housing rehabilitation businesses; all of the jobs followed by... but nooo... hold on... the main intent is to turn Buffalo and the inner-rings into an urban prairie!!! !!! !!!


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Looks suburban. :)

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Ohhh. Forget it. Absentee-owners are SUPPOSED to rule.

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The Harbor Cam is working now!

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Happy to hear this building is getting a new roof. Sad to hear the moldings were not saved. Are there at least some photographs showing the mill work? Rich Products could have done this up right and would have received a lot of positive coverage for it. I didn't know anything about this building. I'm sure there are a lot of people in the area who would appreciate its historic significance.

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Fortunately sections of the dentil molding survive (still on the building). It is a shame that these original 1827 moldings were not carefully preserved as they are of a unique design and added much to the character of the building. Reproduction of original millwork is possible but retaining original fabric is always prefered, especially when in such good conditiion.

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We could probably reproduce these in our shop. But you are right about the importance of saving the original especially if they were in good shape. Reproduction would be very costly. What a shame. If they were just going to toss them they should have at least called in Buffalo ReUse.

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I'd also like to point out that the section of Breckenridge Street in front of the meeting house is one of the last cobblestone streets in the city and possibly the last original cobblestone street. (The other four in the Cobblestone District have been rebult.) Both the building and the street are worthy of preservation. Maybe someday Rich Products will decide to do something for the city?

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Does anyone know why the top was removed and what happened to it? I never knew this was originally a church or that it was so old. Very interesting but I wonder if the building will ever be used again. It's great to preserve these buildings but even greater if they can be used again!

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"Anyone want to bet that there is a nice party in a renovated Breckenridge Meeting House in 2028? For those who don't do math in their heads that would be its 200th birthday."

Not trying to nit-pick... but if it was built in 1827, wouldn't its 200th birthday be in 2027? This isn't one of those odd calendar math things (Bills 1960-2009 being their 50th season). If I'm born in 1981, my 30th birthday isn't 2012.

And I only bring it up because of the joking "for those who don't do math in their heads" statement, and it appears Steel is talking about himself!

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Rich has a reuse in mind for this property. Settle. Bottom line, Rich leaves Niagara St., West Side/Buffalo collapases. I was unaware they were a bad tenant, probably b/c they are not. People need to settle.

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I heard that the green door on the upper right hand side of this building used to have a rod sticking out above it, and it was used for public hangings - someone would step out the door and that was it. Does anyone know if this is true? Just curious.

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I can confirm from memory that it used to have a beam hanging out of it. Never heard the other part. But a lot of old buildings have a beam out of an upper floor door/window for hoisting things up with a pulley... pretty sure that's what it would have been used for.

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