Real Estate August 24, 2009 1:00 PM

Elmwood Churning: Lu Moving, RealtyUSA Coming

Elmwood Churning:  Lu Moving, RealtyUSA Coming

Lu Modern Classics has closed.  The clothing retailer has shut its store at 504 Elmwood Avenue and is expected to reopen September 15th at 3995 North Buffalo Road in Orchard Park.  According to the store's phone message, a new city location will be opening "in October."  Word on the street is the owners are looking for cheaper and perhaps smaller space elsewhere on Elmwood.  RealtyUSA is rumored to be taking the space Lu Modern vacated.  RealtyUSA's city residential office would be moving to 504 Elmwood from 361 Delaware Avenue where the commercial side of the office is expected stay.

Completed in 2007 at a cost of $1.5 million, 504 Elmwood replaced an older commercial structure on the site.  The contemporary building includes nine apartments and 3,100 sq.ft. of commercial space. 

The new building brought new life to what has been a struggling block of Elmwood.   Some have blamed the block's troubles on its layout.  The City did not narrow the street and expand the sidewalks during an Elmwood streetscape project undertaken under former Mayor Anthony Masiello's watch.  Masiello caved to a few loud-mouthed business owners wanting to preserve the ability of customers and delivery drivers to double-park. 

Unrealistic building owners may contribute to the vacancies.  A few of the storefronts have been empty for over two years.

But the block is well positioned and has drawn investment.  Bank of America recently completed a makeover of a former Pier One store (below) and Neo relocated to the block from Allen Street.  At the corner of Elmwood and Bryant, attorney Michael Ferdman and architect Karl Frizlen are close to starting their mixed-use project on the site of a former KFC restaurant. 

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Despite the dubious landlords and the shame of the Sweetooth location being unoccupied for so long, a tip of the hat should go to the Europa restaurant. What a nice success story on that block.

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I realize that property owners would like to make a profit, but this Elmwood vacancy business has to stop. Why are property owners so greedy that they push up rents so high? If rents get too high, then demand goes down because no one can afford it. In order to have a successful district, there should be a rent scale based on assessed value.

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Besides; Lu Modern was waaaay overpriced. Why would I pay $150 for a pair of jeans made overseas, when I could pay $35 for a pair of jeans made overseas that look EXACTLY the same at another store? I bought one shirt from Lu Modern for $16. I'm sorry it didn't work out for them on Elmwood, but I need to eat and pay my mortgage, not purchase ridiculously priced clothes.

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In regards to the News article on saturday and some of these posts: who determines the fair market value of rent? The owner makes no money when its vacant so its in their best interest to find a tenant. However, if someone with an unsuccessful business moves in, it can cost them quite a bit more in losses and legal expenses. I can't find fault with an owner that screens for financially qualified tenants, can you? Would you rent your home out to someone that couldn't afford to pay rent, might trash your place while in it and cost you more in legal and rehab fees?

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Not sure how some people fault the property owners. I think people on this site think that these owners magically come up with a high number just for the fun of it.

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Lu Modern took a good shot at filling a retail void, and did energetic things like having evening sales till late, fair weather sidewalk sales and taking part in community fashion shows.

They will be missed. It will weaken the retail market by plugging in the fairly mundane use of a real estate office here.

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While it feels good to be able to have a scapegoat and roast some property owners did Buffalo Rising actually talk to the owners to get a definite answer? Does "word on the street" qualify now as due diligence? Could it be the case...sure, but we shouldn't speculate. I've walked past that store many times and usually only see the employees milling around. maybe they just wanted to move. isn't churn important for any vibrant neighborhood commercial district? companies should be able to pack up and leave whenever they want...the important issue is filling the space once they leave. again is it on the property owners to lower their prices to meet what businesses want to pay to fill those spaces? is $10 - $16 a square foot really that ridiculous for that location? I mean it is one of the top 10 neighborhoods in the country. don't get me wrong, I think the space should be filled and its a shame this cool store is leaving, but i don't think speculation is basis for a story. i think roy's approach is right on. its a shame they are leaving for whatever reason, who cares what it is until the truth can be found.

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What point are you actually trying to make?

You say you've walked by the store and haven't seen any customers so you question the article's statement that the store is looking for smaller/cheaper space? Are you able to see the logical collission there?

Obviously, they can't afford to stay in that space which is why they're moving.

So what is it you were trying to say?

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thatguy says "...the important issue is filling the space once they leave..." and "...did Buffalo Rising actually talk to the owners to get a definite answer..."

I suggest economic development people (EVA, BERC, SBA, etc..) conduct exit interviews with any business that packs up and leaves, especially those that are moving elsewhere. Learn why and make adjustments, projections, shape programs for incentives/assistance/retention. Do the job that you are paid for. The media, if interested, will follow and find out
the hows and whys.

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My point was that this article was baseless and made a lot of assumptions. Especially now seeing in the News that Lu is moving down to Orchard Park where I'm sure the rents they'll pay will be the same they were paying on Elmwood. I was merely questioning the basis of the story being "word on the street" and the writer clearly jumping off of the recent coverage of high rents in the neighborhood. I was trying to stress that the point of this story shouldn't be that a company clearly just made a business decision to leave and go to a different location, they do that a lot, but instead try to focus on how stores leaving is healthy, as long as something fills the space. What was really this story about? A company's lease ran up and they moved to Orchard Park and a residential real estate office is moving in. Whhhhooooo. Riveting. Put the twist in it that it COULD be the fault of greedy landlords and the public should rally behind it! Until you find out that maybe that had nothing to do with it at all.

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Obviously WCPerspective is entitled to express his opinions, but I find some things he wrote rude, arrogant, and irrelevant to the reporting of Lu Modern's decision to expand in Orchard Park and possibly downsize in Buffalo:

"...Masiello caved to a few loud-mouthed business owners wanting to preserve the ability of customers and delivery drivers to double-park.
Unrealistic building owners, Roger Chainani and Mark Gademsky in particular, holding out for extravagant rents have not helped either..."

So people who disagree with WCP about narrowing of that block are "loud-mouthed" according to him but people who agree with WCP about it aren't? Having a different opinion from his makes them loud-mouthed? And Masiello "caved" just because he reached a different conclusion from what WCP wanted?

Narrowing that block might have helped some businesses and hurt others, but there's no guarantee it would've helped it as a whole. It's anyone's guess.

And who should decide what is and isn't "extravagant" rent amounts other than the people who were willing to invest their money to purchase the buildings and pay taxes on them year after year?

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Oh geez, where to start....

1.) Disgusting Panhandlers/crack heads ALL OVER THE BLOCK! {deleted- off topic}

2.) Potholes and debri line the streets - Calling Mayor to PAVE ELMWOOD - DUH!

3.) Empty storefronts, landlords have to stop thinking this is Park ave and fill the void.

4.) SUNOCO = WORST GAS STATION IN BUFFALO....I have seen drug deals over and over again.

This block has so much potential...Mayor office should kiss the feet of owners or Toro, Nektar, Wine thief, for their investments.

Make some cosmetic improvements, pave the dam street, and clear out the CRACK HEAD SCUM ALCHOHOLIC BUMS,,,,,And u might have a nice block!

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Obama gives panhandlers and crackheads money, I wasn't aware of that, must be a new program. I have never seen Obama on Elmwood, maybe you just saw a generous black man give a guy some change and you thought it was Obama.

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Lu's will do well in Orchard Park. Like "Damsel in a Dress", "Bea-u-tiful", Ultimate Mens Shop and a smattering of other stores that have opened and closed in the last few years geared towards the well healed client, Elmwood is not it. Another t-shirt, consignment or imprinted hoodies store will do better in that location, [or a bar of course].

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if lu's does eventually establish another store on elmwood then this move is a big win. i feel that elmwood ave's biggest need is offices. if there are career jobs located on the avenue then those workers will definitely eat lunch and go shopping during their breaks and after work. the more people living and working on the street then the more successful the retail in the neighborhood will be.

according to the buffalo news article, the vietnamese restaurant and old manhattan bagel shop will soon be filled

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Isn't it possible that Lu Modern failed on Elmwood simply because they sold clothes that nobody wanted to buy?


Good luck in OP.

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