Buffalo to Become a Mecca Due to Global Warming?
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Leave a commenthows that plentiful, accessible niagara falls power been working out lately with WNY?
cheap upstate power has been subsidizing downstate energy prices for a long time now... i have a feeling the water going over the falls will eventually power all the bilge pumps keeping NYC dry...and WNY will see even less of its fair share
Cheap upstate power? Maybe for corporations and those who are politically connected. I visited a friend in Kentucky last weekend and his power rates were nearly 30% less than ours. The rub is that his power authority is buying power from NY. How does that work?
Kentucky gives NYS bourbon in return.
That is almost cheaper than our water. Keep it coming.
i meant that it is cheaply produced power that is exported downstate to subsidize what would otherwise be energy prices prohibitive to downstate development
Interesting - I remember a year or so ago, Buffalo was one of six featured cities highlighted in a Rolling Stone sidebar by Amanda Griscom Little called Where to Live in 2050. The article was also centered on climate change.
Just got back from visiting my son in Denver and lack of water was a big issue there. Although some of the landscapes have been converted to rock gardens and native grass it struck me as incredible that there were still mainly traditional lawns that required lots of water to stay green. Most had underground sprinklers that popped up each night wasting thousands of gallons of this very limited and precious resource.
Los Angeles has restricted sprinkler use to only two mornings per week. Rock gardens and native drought-resistant plantings are becoming a fad here, but it's inevitable that they'll achieve greater popularity once traditional lush lawns decrease due to much higher water rates.
Even with the water shortages and rationing, the water rates in Colorado are still much less than what we pay in NY. It is amazing that desert states pay less for water than NY.
O'Brien, I don't know how much longer that will last. I've visited Glen Canyon Dam a few times in the past few years and Hoover Dam earlier this year. The water levels are so low that electric generation could be impacted, too. Prices will have to rise to force people to conserve.
It'll be a good day when the rest of the states pay inflated utility prices like we do. When will y'all realize that this state is jacked up and a$$ backwards. The only people that benefit in NY are the poor and politically connected.
Obviously the lake is a tremendous resource and we're well placed. As for power... we don't get any of that cheap hydro power. Actually, depending on where you live in the Buffalo region, it can be pretty expensive. Are we supposed to hijack the power grid in the coming apocalypse?
I've been saying it for years (from the time I did my masters research) that Buffalo is ideally suited for a sustainable future based on freshwater access; potential development of alternative energy; and its unique location at what was and can be the epicenter of all things transportation: water, rail, air.
Sadly, we're saddled with some of the worst, most corrupt politicians in the country who are more concerned with getting their campaign chests filled and re-elected than making meaningful, long-lasting change for everyone, not just their friends who donate and the state unions who get them elected.
Maybe it is time for WNY to step up and reclaim a part of their won natural resources... perhaps a well placed pair of scissors at the Wyoming \ Genesee county line... or wherever the watershed for the NR and great lakes stops the power should either stop.. or increase substantially in price.
While I agree with the theories, I also have to put play the Great Lakes to the WEST of us. I think the areas around Lake Superior and Huron are better places for the "relocation" aspect because this water is new to the lakes. By the time we get it, a lot of the water has been "used." Same for Lake Ontario. Just a thought...
New York Power Authority can go to h*ll!!!!
Buffalo should be a boom town. Water, renewable energy, location. WTF are we doing???
It's not a far-fetched theory, and if anything like this does happen, all the more urgent our need to plan and build Buffalo as thoughtfully as possible: measured development, not development at any cost (economic or aesthetic). We want to leave the most beautiful urban landscape that we can to the future.
But wow, when I read the actual article, I had to wonder. Can't anyone write about Buffalo (or any troubled city) with some balance? The imagery that Josh Levin plied was not false; it accurately depicts parts of Buffalo. But aside from a passing and bland reference to Lincoln Parkway, he implied that the entire city of Buffalo is an urban ghost town. Thanks for helping our national image.
Well. I am in the process of moving back to Buffalo by mid-october. I currently live in Colorado and travel between Buffalo and Colorado monthly for my work(which is based in Buffalo). I can say that being an owner of a solar energy company in Buffalo(the only one within city limits) I was drawn back to my hometown to offer affordable(guaranteed lowest cost installer in the northeast) solar systems to the Buffalo region. I am sure we will be a Mecca again and we will see an influx of people back to the region. I also, agree that our politicians in NYS are corrupt. But alas, I and my partners will be fighting and lobbying for changes to the current renewable energy programs offered in NYS. I am currently very excited for the opportunity Buffalo has in the renewable energy sector and I look forward to fighting for changes to our system as well as pushing this industry further in Buffalo!
no offense... but is solar really that reasonable in buffalo? awful lot of cloudy days isn't it?
I never hear anything about contingency plans in case we are wrong and global warming does not occur. What are we going to do about everything we are sacrificing for global warming if it never materializes? Shouldn't we have two plans moving forward?
You want a contingency plan to using less oil, reducing pollution, and conserving water? That's a sacrifice? That's a mistake worth making.
In your opinion.. but you typically find it necessary to push your righteousness on everyone. Typical liberal!
We won't be a mecca if we continue to allow suburban sprawl to eat up (pun intended) all the prime farmland we need for local food production. When California's tap runs dry, you can say goodbye to all of the luxury produce (fruit out of season, for example) that you've been spoiled by at Wegmans.
Oh, and Bloviator, whatever makes you think that climate change isn't already - dramatically - underway?
The people in the suburbs of New Orleans survived the floods, while the city dwellers cried about social injustice while huddled in the Superdome.
Well, that's one of the most ignorant comments I've read on BRO in a while. Oops, just saw your comment further below. Tough call.
Made you think about it for a second... if people were truly worried about their physical environment, then they wouldn't build cities in flood areas, in tornado alley, or along major fault lines. People make ignorant and self serving decisions then expect the rest of us to bail them out when the sh*t hits the fan. So we have global warming, so what? Few people in America truly care enough to make the significant changes that are needed to reverse the destruction, and the few that do are not going to balance out the millions who don't. Our country would rather put trillions of dollars into preserving the cities in the desert by building fresh water pipelines or subsidizing electricity to run air conditioning than they would in developing more hospitable areas of the country.
Do we honestly think that people are going to move from the southern states to Buffalo because it gets a few degrees hotter or because they have to pay more for electricity and water? Past history has shown that we just don't operate that way in America.
Yeah damm those smug flood victims!
"Shoestring Budget" has it right: This can be a haven only if it's self-sufficient, and therefore able to feed its population locally. 100 years ago, most of Buffalo's veggies, eggs, poultry, and bread flour came from Cheektowaga, Amherst, Clarence, West Seneca, and Hamburg. Milk, apples, meat and almost everything else came from Erie and Niagara Counties. If the Ex-Urbs of Buffalo overrun the Ex-Urbs of Rochester, where will the food be grown?
Oh, right - we'll just get our food from the magical, far-away places of chemically forced, machine harvested, genetically modified, bug-poisoned, bird-killing, soil-stripping, 10,000 acre "farms" of today. Not forever, my friends.
Plant a garden, get a chicken coop and can fruits and veggies for the winter months. You will eat better, save money and not be as impacted when Cali stops producing winter produce.
Scientists have already proven that global warming or climate change(whatever the name) is cyclical. We did have an ice age if anyone remembers grade school. So we are only seeing a more than usual rapid progression to climate change which can be attributed to humans. Does this mean humans are the cause? NO!! But, we do aide to the natural process, thusly we should be able to limit ourselves and aide that process at the smallest amount possible!
Climate change sufficient to cause urban abandonment is not a winner for any city, anywhere. The social disruption in this age of billions of people cannot be equated with the decline of the Roman Empire. We are already on top of one another in most countries. The chaos and violence resulting from the scenario the Slate article hypothesizes would be nothing anyone would wish to see.
Only the strong will survive. The rest can rot in hell.
pretentious and arrogant, as usual.
i can see the brochures now:
"Buffalo, a Great Place to Ride Out the Coming Apocalypse!"
do you thing we should get that on a coffee mug?
All I keep picturing is that Mel Gibson movie from the 80's where they are driving those crazy cars with metal all over them and run around in gangs, is that how Buffalo is going to be or that awful movie with Sylvester Stallone Judge Dredd where everyone lives in large cities behind walls (minus the flying motorcycles).
La Labruna,
That's funny! lol I want a coffee mug like that. Let's get some made.
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I just shake my head at those who refuse to acknowledge climate change. The environmental challenges here in California are visible and palpable. The trees in Yosemite have thinned out, the snow-capped mountains in northern California that provide water to the rest of the state are slowly losing their white tops. The central valley of the state, a gigantic agricultural swath, has lost thousands of farm jobs due to water rationing. Los Angeles' water restrictions are becoming more pronounced. Forest fires are becoming a year-round occurrence. The state will have to build desalination plants to offset water losses.
These changes are not limited to California, though. Check out the northern rim of the Grand Canyon and the trees have thinned out due to fire. Southwest Colorado has similar problems. The agricultural regions of northern Nevada fight with thirsty Las Vegas over water and the battle there is getting more intense every year.
New York should consider itself lucky that it really has only the dysfunction of Albany as its major problem. Get beyond that and the state should thrive. Of course, if Buffalo saw a large influx of residents, parking may just become an endangered species.