Real Estate August 28, 2009 2:05 PM

Blue is IN on Delaware

Blue is IN on Delaware

Delaware Avenue sports a few powder blue residential buildings and recently got a heavy dose of blue glass at Avant.  Not to be outdone, owner Righteous Babe Records has joined in with the building at 340 Delaware Avenue south of Tupper Street. 

There's not much to say here.  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  The City and public generally have no say in paint schemes outside of preservation districts.  An irate emailer isn't pleased however:

Can you believe this??  This is the former Naples Insurance Building.  The dryvit was a neutral beige pretty much matching up with the adjacent buildings.  How the hell does this kind of disaster happen in our city?  We are a joke!!!!! 

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Design Review Anyone?

Update:

I just heard from Starlight Gallery- the 'offensive blue' is indeed a primer and is background for a mural being painted on the building...more to come.   -WCP

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I hope thats just the primer

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What did the owner say? Did you ask?

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Slightly odd color schemes arent unique to the Buffalo area. Making a blanket statement that "we are a joke" as in Buffalo, New York due to something like this is actually absurd. There are many other examples of these types of buildings elsewhere throughout the Country. When you start getting into dictating colors and textures and facade embellishments, etc. as requirements you typically open up a can of worms, especially with private land owners, developers, etc. Its viewed as anti-business, anti property rights, etc. Nothing wrong with some bulk regulations and perhaps even some minimum design standards but unless located in a specifically designated historic district or some sort of overlay that people buy into I think you create alot of problems trying to dictate things like color, it really opens the doors to subjective reviews and one persons tastes against anothers. I understand the frustration, I dont like arrogant or in your face architecture or color schemes either if there is no reference to the larger community. Buildings that stick out like a sore thumb are sore thumbs. To actually regulate to this extent though I say good luck.

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::gasp::You mean someone took creative license, and the right inherent in owning property, and decided to change up the monotony of gray and beige buildings on Delaware Ave. by painting the exterior blue...the nerve of some people.:gasp::

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The blue is not that bad, it just needs some accents to differentiate the details.

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I think the drivit is more of a problem.

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I agree, Dryvit should be outlawed from city limits.

replied to STEEL
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E.F.I.S. or "Dryvit" or "STO" or any other "Exterior Insulation & Finish System" is NOT "the problem". On the contrary, it is quite a good product, and has a long and proven track record.

It is just a synthetic "thin shell" type of "stucco".

If installed properly, and with all components of the total system from the same manufacturer, E.I.F.S. can last as long as properly installed Cement Plaster (stucco) systems.

If the installer or designer has no idea what they are doing, then it can be a DISASTER.

I've used it for many projects from Snowy Buffalo to Honolulu and Las Vegas - and never have I had or seen any problems for over forty years.

E.I.F.S. was originally developed in Europe - Germany - just after WWII to help in the task of making rapid rebuilding and reconstruction projects a reality, and has performed quite well.

Of course, the systems that fail, do so because of the bad DESIGN on the part of a BAD Architect or bad INSTALLATION on the part of a BAD Contractor, who have NO IDEA what they are doing!

replied to STEEL
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This design is pretty uninspired. The blue is pretty out there. I know it's a gallery, and part of the idea is to jump out and announce itself, but it is fugly (muted beige or sky blue).

But that's interesting history on Dryvit. Good to know it potentially lasts as long as it does. And it is getting better looking. 31 Supper Club (Johnson Park @ Elmwood) is a dryvit type product, but it looks pretty convincingly like brick. Panos isn't a bad imitation brick, either (though less convincing to me than 31).

But you have to admit typical dryvit exteriors are pretty uninspired architecturally speaking (not that bad design is limited to dryvit; the Walgreen's at delaware and north is brick, but it rivals any dryvit box for ugliness, despite the 'customized' design).

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Oh, pleeeeeze. It dents so easily it might as well be papier-mache. It's the strip mall version of vinyl siding.

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It was an ugly building before the paint. It looked like a typical suburban store in a strip mall. The blue, as it is now, only draws attention to an already ugly building. Perhaps with some accents and a little creativity, it can look a bit better than it does now.

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you people are incredible with your judgments, and critiques! you make me laugh on almost a daily basis.

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The blue color just amplifies the shortcomings of the building's design.

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Agree with STEEL, the Dryvit is the problem.
And also, aren't we just over-reacting a bit?
It's only paint.

"We are a joke"? I don't think so.

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Found it! There's my missing Pawn trying to hide!

Agreed- the blue is a bit much. Street trees might help hide it. Oooops.

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Behind this storefront addition will be found the remains of the Civil War Era home of George Truscott, a founder of M&T and Forest Lawn; he was also one of only 3 whiskey distillers in NYS in 1860 or so!

Later, it was home to Dr.Charles Cary, whose wife was Evelyn Rumsey. Take a look at the area behind these houses - http://wnyheritagepress.org/photos_week_2005/rumsey_park/rumsey_park.htm .

Apparently, some of the interior survives - http://www.buffaloah.com/h/caryChas/source/6.html

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great history, thanks! I love the last line and picture on how the Mansion was pulled down for a modern building...lol

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What a fascinating story and spectacular estate! Shame it came to an end. Thanks for the link.

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WCP, What about Big Blue? We started it all!

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I just heard from Starlight Gallery- the 'offensive blue' is indeed a primer and is background for a mural being painted on the building...more to come.

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good news.

replied to WCPerspective
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A well-executed mural could work, but the canvas that is the building is not exactly lending it any favors. I look forward to the next article when the mural is completed.

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it's just graffiti from the Blue Man Group...

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Oh even better - now we'll have a billboard/mural printed along stately Delaware ave.

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Have to agree with you on this one, Delaware is not the medium for a mural, no matter how well done.

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Mural-painted buildings almost always look awful anywhere, and one will be especially out of place at this location. But if the owner really wants to do it, so be it. Their building, their choice.

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'Mural-painted buildings almost always look awful anywhere....'

Interesting. What are your exceptions?

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To answer your question, maybe the "almost" was too generous. But I'm open minded enough to acknowledge it's possible that somewhere there's some buildings covered in murals that don't look awful in their settings, even if no positive examples come to mind for now. Again, this building's owners should do what they think is best - even if it's something most of the rest of us think looks awful.

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I asked because the mural tradition is strong in many countries -- it's one foundation of Mexican art, for example -- and in pockets of this country, especially California. In the hands of a talented artist, it works. I hope this building is as fortunate.

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This building has mural-esque decoration and no one is complaining:


http://archives.buffalorising.com/story/old_pink_gets_an_electric_make


Plus this shade is blue is way more palatable than what they slapped on the ground floor of the Lafayette Hotel.

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For one thing, Allen St is a pretty different context and setting than 340 Delaware. For another thing, that yellow flame mural arguably doesn't look good so I doubt it's true that "no one" complained about it - esp compared to the previous mural there. Anyway it's all subjective, not worth an outcry.

The complaint quoted in the article is a weird overreaction to rant "How the hell does this kind of disaster happen in our city? We are a joke!!!!!" That complaint is a bigger joke than any paint choice.

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Is this the color of The Corporate Canopy.........

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i saw the mural today, I have to say I really like it. At the same time I was shocked. Does it fit with the surrounding buildings? not at all. Do I care? Not at all. Here's to a successful venture for whatever the Righteous Babe Records has planned.

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