City July 15, 2009 12:30 PM

Where Are They?

Where Are They?
Buffalo was once the booming Queen City of the Great Lakes as the nation's largest inland port. Lake and canal ships flocked the inner and outer harbors. Some described it as another city on the lake, with thousands of lights flickering on the waters of Lake Erie.
 
Along with numerous boats and barges, came large passenger steam ships, many manufactured in Buffalo, docking at the city's bustling waterfront. Steam ships like the Canadiana (far left in entry photo), traveled to many destinations, primarily connecting downtown Buffalo and Canada, including Crystal Beach Amusement Park.
 
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So what happened to these gorgeous ships that once transported thousands and graced our city's waterfront?  The Canadiana, manufactured in Buffalo in 1910, after ceasing operation in the 1980's, floated throughout much of the Great Lakes carelessly, with little hope of any future. 
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The ship went from Port Colborne to Cleveland where it finally sunk in the Cayuhoga River. It was later raised and towed back to Buffalo and dismantled on the outer harbor, which brings us to today, where all we have left is the old wheel house now held in storage. The Canadiana has died, but survived a 94-year-old life. Some images from FixBuffalo of the remains of the wheel house taken shortly after dismantling:
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The plans to restore the boat were quite interesting. They included: A major tourist attraction complete with an official Maritime Museum, a nautical restaurant, live theater playhouse, adjunct to a new convention center, a jewel of a restored harborfront setting, capable of weddings, receptions, and banquets with a setting for turn-of-the-century movies, along with many other types of interests, while being a cruise passenger ship with three hour intervals between dockings. 
 
Unfortunately, full-funding for restoring ship was not secured.  Things along the waterfront are looking brighter despite the death of the Canadiana and other historic Buffalo passenger ships. Waterfront plans are finally starting to advance.  The Inner Harbor is becoming a major attraction where CanalSide is expected to be open by May 2011.
 
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The outer harbor still screams for development, but is showing aesthetic and access improvements. A new plan for the prime property is expected in the coming years, acting as another phase of waterfront development after CanalSide is complete. What does this mean for Buffalo cruise ships? Well, it may be time to raise awareness and work to bring back larger cruise ships.  If the Canadiana were mothballed instead of scrapped, it may have a better shot today for restoration than a decade ago.  The current Miss Buffalo and Spirit of Buffalo are a good start, but there may be a market for more.
 

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What happened to the proposed development of the former Freezer Queen complex? That looked like the Canadiana.

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I hear that project is on hold, indefinitely.

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Any word on the Aquarama / Marine Star?

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Didn't that leave port late last year?

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Yar, she did at that. She be heading on a one way trip to Davy Jone's locker - in Turkey (who knew?)

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The last thing I heard was that it was sold for scrap, but I also heard that a Rochester company was interested in saving it. I haven't heard anything about it since it was towed away.


I loved exploring that ship!

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Lets be realistic here. No need to resurrect every old timey relic of B-Lo's past...Rebuilding the Canadiana based on that shadrack looking wheelhouse is silly.

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There were actually 2 ships that served Buffalo: The Canadiana and the Americana. Yes they were built in Buffalo. There were also 2 other ships and they were restored. I believe on was the Columbia and I believe it was restored and is cruising the upper Hudson.

There is also beautiful ships like the Greater Buffalo which if I remember was so large that its upper passenger decks were removed and it was converted to an aircraft carrier called the USS Sable. For President GWB learned how to fly planes in WWII on what was formerly the Greater Buffalo.

Before we can invite cruise ships to Buffalo, Buffalo must join the Great Lakes Cruising Coalition like Rochester did and consider rebuilding the DL&W Passenger Concourse which would make an awesome ship/light rail multi-modal station once again. BIG PICTURE HERE. A SHIP MUST DOCK IN A PORT IN ORDER FOR PASSENGERS TO VISIT NIAGARA FALLS. NOW BUFFALO AND ITS CASINO AND ITS LIGHT RAIL CAN SEEMLESSLY INTEGRATE BUFFALO AND NIAGARA FALLS OR THEY CAN WATCH IT PASS TO CANADA OR ROCHESTER.

As far as ships, its critical that a replica erie canal barge be in our harbor. In Britain and Europe such barges can be rented for a day or weekend or week long cruise. It is also critical that we have historic ships in our harbor as Baltimore and Boston do. Ships strongly connected to Buffalo are LaSalles Griffon, Admiral Perry's warship that defending Lake Erie and Buffalo in 1812, the Americana or Canadiana or the Greater Buffalo.

Most Buffalonians are to young to remember Crystal Beach or the Canadiana but there were many a kid that looked forward to the crystal beach logan berries and the rides and the beaches ... further...there was many a romance that began on those excursions.

There is only one thing that can offset long winters, high taxes, dictatorial unions, incompetent politicians and that is History, Culture and Quality of Life...Buffalo has these in abundance.

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Marine Star I also heard was to be scrapped. I think they towed it up the St. Lawrence seaway and it was to be scrapped in Europe actually. Yes it would be great to see some more passenger lines pulling into Buffalo, it could create a whole great lakes cities network for tourism, certainly pull traffic from the far reaches of Detroit, Toledo, Chicago, Green Bay, Minneapolis, etc. Summer great lakes cruises of which Buffalo and Niagara Falls would be part?

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In most larger cities, a few streetcars were saved when the local streetcar system was abandoned for buses. There's still working Rochester and Cleveland streetcars at transit museums. Unfortunately, ALL of the streetcars that ran on the IRC system in the Buffalo area -- every last one of them -- were sold for scrap or burned after the system shut down in 1950. No thought was given to keeping just one or two in storage for historical purposes.

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Dan -

Its true, Buffalo's streetcars were unceremoniously burned and scrapped - however, the style of streetcar was a fairly common one. In fact, some of the old Peter Witts have been purchased from Milan, and have been restored to ride American rails!


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For a trip down Buffalo and Lake Eries maritime history checkout this website:
http://www.putinbayphotos.com/modboats/modboats.html

It has all the really famous ships like the Cleveland-Buffalo (aka C&B), Lady Elgin, the Vandalia, the Alaska, etc. Unfortunately, no Canadiana, Americana or Greater Buffalo.

For a reconstruction of Admiral Perry's Warships in the battle of Lake Erie, I suggest visiting this website.
http://www.brigniagara.org/niagara_history.htm

Now, according to this website there were 3 ships involved: The Niagara, the Erie and the Pennsylvania. Am I the only one that thinks the Erie and Niagara belong here in Buffalo?

The Columbia and The St Claire are the sister ships to the Canadiana and the Americana, Buffalo Built but smaller, and still in service. check out the website for more details.
http://www.olm1.com/~wny/buffalo/canadiana/can-fea.html

These ships in their own way (the Erie Canal Barge, the 1812 Warships, the C&B, the Greater Buffalo, the Canadiana and the Americana) are the equivalents to our architectural pillars: the Richardson (EBGreen), the Prudential (Sullivan), the Martin Complex / Graycliff / Rowing Club (FLWright).

Other cities can match us in art, others in history, others in technology, others in architecture, others in transportation and industry and technology BUT NO OTHER CITY IN THE WORLD CAN PUT THE CAPTAINS OF LAKE PORTS/CANALS/RAILROADS, TOGETHER WITH THE CAPTAINS OF ARCHITECTURE/PARKS/PARKWAYS/STREET GRID, TOGETHER WITH CAPTAINS OF INDUSTRY TOGETHER WITH SINGLE MAN RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR MODERN WORLD: NICOLA TESLA.

WE MAY BE A POOR AND DEPOPULATING AND DEINDUSTRIALIZING CITY BUT WE STAND AMONG THE WEALTHIEST CITIES IN THE WORLD.

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There was a good sized cruise ship docked at the marina in 99 or 2000. Think it was called "Cape May Light"?. It ran for just a year or two then left.

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