LA No Way: Don't Let It Be The Bills

Jacksonville is about the same market size, and they have to keep covering ENTIRE blocks of their stadium with tarp because they can't give the tickets away. Seems like it should be the Jaguars who would make the move. Oddly enough, their stadium is obviously based on the Ralph in its design.

Jim Kelly and investmenr friends...please pull through!

or how about golisano sell the sabres, someone else buy it, and he takes the Bills!?! He sure can afford it!

And move the stadium to niagara falls, NY. Stimulate their economy, revamp the area, make it easier for canadiens to get to the games, and give fans/visitors another reason to be in the area... THE FALLS!

Football never does good in LA. LA only cares about UCLA and Southern Cal, thats it. They are a college town. There is a reason why the Rams and the Raiders both left the number 2 TV market, because fans weren't going to games. Buffalo has tons of fans going to game and buying merchandise, but we don't charge an arm and a leg for the right to sit in a seat. Nothing is more outrageous than what the Cowboys and Giants do with personal seat licenses, you have to buy a personal seat license then buy a ticket to the game too, what a ripoff.

As someone who lives in San Diego, I think the Chargers moving to LA is much more of a possibility than Buffalo. There are a couple of reasons:

1 - If the Chargers were to move to the LA, depending on the location of the stadium, you could get a 2-4-1 in LA and San Diego fans. The Chargers are inked a deal to market in LA this spring. If the Bills were to move west, you have to win over fans in Southern California that already root for the Chargers because there is no team in LA.

2 - San Diego is very active in looking for a new stadium deal, whereas with the Bills it is mostly speculation. The Chargers have a 3 month window to leave the day after the Super Bowl in 2010. The Bills have publicly stated they will not move or be sold until Ralph Wilson passes away. I think and hope the first date will come first.

3 - The Tor-Buff-Chester region, or whatever people want to call it, is a MAJOR population center. It is similar size to the LA-Orange County-San Diego region but with less people. I do not see the NFL wanting to leave the first region only to put 2 teams in the latter.

In the end, I still think it is a 50/50 shot the Bills leave but I do not see it being to LA. I see it being to somewhere in Ontario CA. The NFL simply will not walk away from that many fans IMO.

It must be time for the annual "the Bills are moving conversation", which can be heard daily on wgr550. If you remember 9 years ago the Pats were threatening to move to Connecticut, then there was talks of Indy moving to LA, of course N.O. was going to move, but Katrina may have actually helped them save their team becasue they got money for repairs and updates to the Dome, AZ was a big threat until they got their new stadium. See a trend here? The NFL is in the stadium building business. I actually think that Oakland will move back to LA. There's also a possibility the Chargers will move as well. Both teams have older stadiums, local fan bases, and it wouldn't require any division realignment.

So tired of all the "moving" talk. It consumes everyone and makes it nearly impossible to enjoy being a fan.

I believe that most of the NFL franchises are part of the relocation speculation. I heard about the relocation of teams from San Diego, Seattle, Arizona, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, Tampa, Philadelphia, and even Miami, over the past year. The talk radio and media chatter is the same in these cities as it is in Buffalo. They are all afraid of losing their teams to the next city with more money and less dedicated fans. The arguments for and against are almost always identical. At the end of the day, it is up to all team owners to determine whether or not a team will move, all the clamouring fans do little to help with the decision process. That said, I highly recommend we send some people to sleep on billboards, protest in front of the stadium, and hold their breath until the turn blue. Nothing says dedicated to my team like a protesting fan!

Here is the ironic beauty in the Bills situation. The day Ralph croaks there would be interest in the Bills by Toronto interests which means the LA people would have to enter a bidding war which would make the Bills expensive which means that the cost of the high priced team plus a stadium pretty much rules out an LA move for the Bills.

The Rams are moving back to L.A.

The Falls wouldn't be a good place for the stadium unless you leveled the entire city and started over. I still think a waterfront or downtown Buffalo stadium would be awesome. Not that it would ever happen. A guy can dream right???

We need to keep Ralph alive forever or convince him to sell the team while he's still kicking. If not...we are screwed.

Maybe we can pull a "Weekend at Bernie's" type move...just prop Ralph up in the box every sunday...fool people into thinking that he's still alive.

$800 million for a team and $1 billion for a new stadium. Either Roski is richer than Eli Broad, Kirk Kirkorian, or a half a dozen other mega-billionaires that failed to land an NFL franchise in cash-strapped LA or he's another bullsh*tting big talker. Let him try.

The Jaguars are a joke. They're usually a playoff team, and fail to sell out a majority of they're games. And Jacksonville as a city is MUCH larger than Buffalo. The issue with them is that they're a new team (formed in the '90s) and have difficulty drawing fans away from the Falcons, Dolphins and even the Buccs. But mostly the Dolphins.

The only thing that will keep the Bills is town is a new stadium. I'm sure Toronto has enough money to build a massive stadium fit for an NFL team, because the SkyDome really isn't.

Let 'em try. I dare them to. The BILLS aren't going anywhere.

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As someone who lives in LA its bad enough seeing they might try and take my Bills but moving any team to the City of Industry is like the Bills deciding to build another stadium in Orchard Park. I think we've all come to love going to games there but we all know a city stadium is needed.

No doubt they will invest a sci-fi stasis chamber to keep Ralph Wilson alive in perpetuity.

I think the days of moving teams are over...I dont know how but I do believe enough of a stink will be made...and the Bills will stay in Buffalo after Wilson.

No, I dont Toronto wants the Bills because they have a Canadian Football League that would collapse if their Toronto team converted to the US League....that is not to say Toronto doesnt want some Buffalo games.

obviously noone here knows Roski. He and Philip Anschutz own the Kings, Staples Center and most of the Railroad and Fiber Optics lines laid next to them around the entire US. He is a multi Billionaire with the cash to support the debt service on the BIlls, who have the lowest ticket prices in the NFL. The LA Bills are not an illusion...California IOU's might be a better name however

Also, the Suite revenue is non existent in Buffalo, especially in this economy. Luxury suites here go for less than $80,000 for the entire season, whereas Dallas gets $1.4 million just to start, going all the way up to $8 million per season. We just cant get that kind of revenue in this area or that stadium here in BUffalo

most likely going to be a California team. Both the Raiders and Chargers would be likely candidates. As far as I know the Chargers still haven't gotten a new stadium, though I have a strange feeling Al Davis would love to move the raiders BACK to LA again, especially if it lines his pockets anymore. Jacksonville will move before buffalo (assuming Ralph is alive). Minnesota is getting a new facility so cross them off the list, though their owner has hard times paying his monthly "mortgage" on the loan for the team.

The bills will be toronto bound, unless we get someone like Golisano, the Riches and Jacobs to all put together a 1billion bid for the team to keep it here. They may never make a ton on it, but they aren't going to lose money either.