City May 7, 2009 10:02 AM

Croquet Anyone?

Croquet Anyone?

I got beaten back on my recent gigantic sign posting.  The first 10 or so commenters thought I was off base, criticizing the biggie-sized street signs seen around Buffalo these days.  

Then, on another Internet forum, I scored strike two while criticizing the giant wickets on the Main Street pedestrian mall.  On that forum I said that one of the great benefits of returning cars to Main was that the corny arches over the street would have to be removed.  Pretty much 100% of the others commenting thought I was crazy for not liking the lighted steel arches.  Huh? I have always thought these goofy arches were embarrassing, half-baked architectural cartoons.  People actually like these things?  Yikes!  I guess architects really are out of touch with the general public.

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The arches, along with an accompanying assortment of other trashy (in my opinion) architectural clutter, were part of the original ped-mall design by Toronto architect Raymond Moriyama.  The Mall design was presented with great fanfare and dreamy renderings.  It had a theme of light, which was supposed to add vibrancy to the street scene.  At the north, the Mall would begin with a lighted clock tower rising above the train portal.  At the south, a beam of laser light was going to shoot from the top of HSBC Tower (then Marine Midland).  At the Aud, the station was to be lit with scoreboard-like signs and murals of sports stars.   Along the length of the Mall, stations, kiosks and the afore mentioned arches would grace the landscape with a festive and uplifting spirit.  

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The plan was substantially realized but cost-cutting on the over $40M project took its toll with cheaper pavement, no laser show, and gutting of the Aud station (framework was installed, but no lighted signs because the Feds said the signs were not transit oriented and would not contribute money toward them).  The clock tower and a proposed massive wind blocking structure were the source of great controversy because the Preservation Board would not approve their design, and the wind blocker ultimately was dropped from the project.  To my chagrin the arches survived the cost cutting.

Ever since, the trains, with their equally tacky brown and orange paint schemes, have been moving through the street wickets like croquet balls. Ok, let me have it.


Photographs courtesy of  Buffalonian4life, Nathan Mroz - president and photographer of BuffaloScenicPrints.com 

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I believe the arches are a play on the arch de triumph, but these are the arches des failure. Remove them, move forward with returning automobiles to Main Street and lets attempt to have a functional central core. The arches represent a failure in urban planning, the failure of our CBD and a hinderance to future growth.

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I certainly agree with you STEEL. Did the same team design the inside of the Galleria mall? That horrid 80's or 90's round tubing and corny abstract style makes me want to puke.

Regarding the signs, I'm more irked by the lack of creativity or character of the signs than the admittedly unnecessary size.


Rev Drew said:


"I love the signs with the Buffalo on them. I want to see Buffalo everywhere."


That's a nice option that wouldn't have taken much brain power from the city.

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It really is alot of clutter, especially where the line goes underground, all kinds of junk all over Main there acts as a big visual block as well, kills the view corridor.

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The arches were a lot easier to take when the original moving light scheme was still working.

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Isn't the whole idea of BR that everything is supposed to be local and positive? Instead of bashing, offer a solution.

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The solution is they are out-a-here!

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i'm an architect and the arches really do not bother me... ultimately they do create a space for the trains without actually creating a tunnel... i think when they are ligthed they make for an interesting element running down the street...

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Believe it or not, Main Street is a really beautiful street to walk down.

Now I would have liked for HSBC not to rise above the centr of Main Street and block the lake and a few other things but Main Street really a beautiful street

The arches are distracting and block the views.

Better would be to light up the cornices on Main Street
Better would be to bring the trees back to Main Street
Better would be to run a christmas light across Main Street between top floors of the buildings on each side of the street..nothing to block the views during the day and a rather artistic canopy in the evening.

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maybe if the arches built actually looked like the arches in the first rendering they wouldn't be so tacky looking. They seem to have a nicer proportion and construction. Instead we got these odd space framey tubey things.


Also they needed to act as a whole. I am unsure what the original plan called for but they exist today as relics to a system that wasn't implemented properly.

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in the family of architectural features on the ped mall, they are the least offensive but regardless they are dated and the street would be better off without them.

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nick - "I believe the arches are a play on the arch de triumph, but these are the arches des failure."

LOL Sorry but that was funny.. I say steel is right on with these contraptions. Also I don't want to be too negative so I have to comment that the 700th block of Main Street is looking great.

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I love them!

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"People actually like these things? Yikes! I guess architects really are out of touch with the general public"
Yes, and Yes.

;)

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You are absolutely right, they are goofy.

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The stations and the ornamentation are embarrassing. And they block the view. Hear, hear (or is it here, here?) for the idea of lighting shining on the exteriors of Main Street buildings--cheaper and classier way to dress up the street at night and in the day it doesn't need it. Less is more.

And Steel, those street signs on Richmond are ridiculously big.

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They were always ugly and age certainly hasn't added charm. They don't even appeal as kitsch. This applies to all of the Metro Rail furniture on the pedestrian mall.

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I heard McDonalds has a bid in to paint them all yellow.

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Well.....since you said, "Let me have it," I will. Yeah, the arches are pitiful but had there been a BuffaloRising around 1982 when they were first designed, I'll bet the Bank of Buffalo that you'd have been leading the cheers, as you do for all new builds short of suburban big box stores.


You'd have called them bold, visionary, a great example of how the new can complement the old, an opportunity to rebrand Buffalo as forward-thinking. You'd have waxed poetic about the architect's sophisticated lighting program and you'd have invoked the Pan American Exposition. You'd have praised the arches for visually unifying the generous expanse of the pedestrian mall.


Most importantly, you'd have dismissed anyone who complained about them. Today's score: ignorant reactionaries, 1; architects, 0.

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The arches are a civic embarassment. They need to come down and be relocated to a park somwhere. Replace them with street level retail.

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The arches don't take up retail space! They just add to the street, is all! A form of art and pulsating lights. I like them a lot. I just don't understand why various people do not like the arches... No one has truly given a good reason they should go or why they don't like them or what would replace these magnificent steel art pieces along Main Street. It's a lot better than nothing! It adds to the street!

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You didn't get the joke. When those stupid arches went up, retail vanished. Their placement in front of the vacant AM&A's is like some sort of mock tribute to the ghosts of Urban Vitality Past.

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The real difference between the renderings and the pictures are the people. I actually like it at night, adds to the visual charm, daytime, not so much.

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