Real Estate May 23, 2009 9:37 AM

Another Buffalo Mansion for Sale

Another Buffalo Mansion for Sale
On the heels of a $1.4 million listing on Chapin Parkway, another Buffalo mansion is up for sale - this one on Tudor Place.  With a listing price of $1.8 million, this stone mansion sits on nearly 1/2 acre on one of Buffalo's more appealing streets.  The house itself checks in at 8,695 square feet and has 8 bedroom and 5.5 bathrooms. 

In case the exterior isn't commanding enough, the interior certainly won't escape anyone's attention.  It's safe to say this isn't the best house for the minimalists in the crowd. 

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There is a wood-paneled study, maid's quarters, a 4 car garage with an apartment above.  And if you've had it with stairs, you're in luck - there's an elevator in the main house.  The listing also indicates the house is near a bus line.  That's certain to come in handy for the next owner. 

If you have a couple million burning a hole in your pocket and you're looking to make a statement, check out the full listing and contact the agent.  

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Kristan Andersen
Gurney, Becker & Bourne
480-0000

 

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So, can anyone post a free listing here?

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onestar - if the listing is interesting, we'll consider it. You know, a lot like other urban blogs and like other popular sites like Curbed and RealEstalker.

There aren't a lot of $1M+ listings in Buffalo - indeed, I think only 2-3 houses have ever sold for more than $1M in the city, so these houses are worth writing about.

Thanks for your thoughtful question.


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I agree with your logic. The owners of these properties have little interest in a "free listing" on Buffalo Rising, but I suspect there are many people that are interested in reading about these amazing homes. But I think there is an obligation to provide more info than a standard sales listing - i.e. the architect, the original owners, info that brings the property to life.


I would love to see BR do a story on 35 Lincoln Parkway, the former Chancery for the Buffalo Diocese. My impression was that this property is undergoing a million dollar restoration, but lately I have heard that the figure is much, much higher! City records list the owners as Clement and Karen Arrison. They have been in the news a number of times recently for their willingness to lend amazing Stradivari and Guarneri del Gasu violins to rising stars.

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Imagine all the interest that Buffalo Rising could generate by writing articles about the many dilapidated homes for sale in Buffalo that are listed at $19,000 and below. Genius.

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there ya go, lets see if they start publishing them.

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For those folks who do have an interest in some of the grand homes of Buffalo, here is some information for you. In 1928, Orin Foster, of Foster-Milburn Drug Co. (Doan's Pills) - later Westwood Pharmaceuticals, hired Buffalo architect Paul F. Mann to design and build 50 Tudor Place for his 42 year old daughter Helen Foster. The cost to build the house in 1928 was $225,121.97. Helen lived in the house with her staff of servants until she died at the age of 98 in 1984. In October 1984, there was a two day estate auction on-site that offered an incredible collection of furnishings and rugs. Hundreds of thousands of dollars in furnishings left that residence at the conclusion of the auction. I recall that many of the pieces of the one-of-a-kind furniture were displayed with the definitive reference books that had the illustration of the piece in it. The house was truly a museum. The current owner bought the house from the Foster estate in 1984 for $250,000.

Orin Foster also had 33 Tudor Place built for his other daughter, Edna.

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JPP - thanks for the info. Amazing that the house was sold 56 years later for little more than it cost to build. But the Fosters did better than I did. I bought a house in the first block of Lafayette (near Main) in 1983 for $3500 (it had been vacant for seven years), put $150,000 into it, and sold it in 2003 for $60,000. But I don't think anyone is interested in that story. Insufficient cynicism quotient.

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Howdy jpp, it has been 2 years since you posted that wonderful information about my ancestor, Orin Elliott Foster, however, I just ran across it tonight. Thank you for posting it. btw... do you or anybody on this site, know where he is buried? He died Dec 29, 1928 in Buffalo,
Thanks again, Karen Foster Montgomery

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Karen: I just noticed your comment -- I'm not sure anyone else has spotted it. I flagged your comment so that it will come to the attention of the article's author, who may be able to put you in touch with JPP (whomever that is).

BTW, the Foster mansion on Delaware just sold for condo conversion. It was sold by Canisius High School, to which it had been donated:
http://www.buffalonews.com/city/communities/buffalo/article463879.ece

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This part of our built environment doesn't get as much exposure on BRO as the other side of the market. The reasons are many. I am not going to specifically speculate as to what this sudden surge might indicate, but I appreciate the historical information provided by contributors. After October, 1929, home ownership began to change along the finest street in the city. We call it by many names in different spots, but generally it is Delaware Avenue. Generally speaking, once private mansions became headquarters to private and public agencies. The individual stories are well documented.
Could we be experiencing the beginning of a similar change following September, 2008? This just might be important. This trend, if indeed it proves to be one, should send shockwaves all through the city. Then again, it just might be a blip. Either way, it does warrant attention in a forum like this.

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JPP,

Many thanks for your research on this extraordinary urban house; if you have any other information on this house I'd be grateful to learn it.

The pictures on the realtor's website do it no justice. The drawing room is voluminous with 14 foot ceilings, gilded panels and 12 foot doors to the garden. It is transporting to be in it. The whole house is a testament not just to the Fosters' wealth, but more importantly to their keen and discriminating taste. The house was festooned with fine tapestries, porcelains and furniture, and though it's missing a few fixtures, it is largely intact, right down to the butler's office and original house phones. The elctrical panel charmingly labels the master bedroom the "boudoir."

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Come and listen to a story about a man named Jed
A poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed,
Then one day he was shootin at some food,
And up through the ground came a bubblin crude.

Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea.

Well the first thing you know ol Jed's a millionaire,
Kinfolk said "Jed move away from there"
Said " Buffalo...ny is the place you ought to be"
So they loaded up the truck and moved to Buffalo ny.

Hills, that is. Swimmin pools, movie stars.


Well now its time to say good by to Jed and all his kin.
And they would like to thank you folks fer kindly droppin in.
You're all invited back a gain to this locality
To have a heapin helpin of their hospitality

Hillybilly that is. Set a spell, Take your shoes off.

Y'all come back now, y'hear?.

ANYONE ELSE KINDA SEE OLE JED CLAMPETTE AND GRANNY COMING OUT THE DRIVEWAY....

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Ha! You beat me to it! Will I need a loan from Mr. Drysdale to get this beaut' ?

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One star and snark - Here you go. These are just a few examples of the stories I have done that fit the subject matter you are talking about.

http://archives.buffalorising.com/story/update_19_coe_place

http://www.buffalorising.com/2009/05/the-high-cost-of-nothing-2-a-tale-of-two-streets.html

http://archives.buffalorising.com/story/why_is_this_house_doomed

There are many more. If you are interested I will hook you up with more links


Also - here is the mansion on Lincoln that you mentioned.
http://archives.buffalorising.com/story/secrets_of_buffalo

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Steel - thanks very much for the link. I did an archive search but failed to turn up your 2006 story. I was also privileged to see the inside of 35 Lincoln Pkwy 20 years ago. My guide was Msgr. Walter Kern, the Diocesan Historian & Archivist. He related the story of the two brothers from Bowmansville who did all the wood carvings in the house, including the lion at the bottom of the balustrade. Someone from the Junior League needs to convince the Arrisons to make it the next Decorator Show House in 2011.


EricOak - sounds like you have been through 50 Tudor. Is it available for viewing through the realtor, even if you're not a likely buyer?

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skarnath,


You won't be able to see the house without some serious interest in buying it, which is a pity since the house epitomizes the last wave of grand and refined taste that Buffalo houses enjoyed: the late '20s. I'm not sure which is the more beautiful house--this French affair or Miss Foster's sister's house across the street, a Georgian tour de force. They are both ravishing.


But one thing I feel strongly about: neither this house nor 35 Lincoln Parkway should be a Junior League Decorator Showhouse. That would scar them. These houses need the vision, historical acumen, and mature taste of a loving owner and maybe one thoughtful designer. The Decorator Showhouses are terrific fundraisers for good causes but they are a scandal for the houses that get desecrated.

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EricOak - thanks. I didn't really expect to be able to just wander in and say: "just came to see the house, not to buy it." 33 Tudor is Victor Rice's house, former CEO of Verity. He still spends some limited time in Buffalo.


My understanding (second hand info) is that Karen Arrison is overseeing the restoration of 35 Lincoln Parkway - from their house at 114 Windsor, which conveniently backs up to 35 Lincoln Pkwy. From everything I've read and heard, I seriously doubt that she or her husband will allow the restoration to be compromised. I just hope there is a way for the house to be open for public viewing when it is complete.

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Clem Arrison made all his $ from Mark IV industries probably moving down to Florida full time. Can't blame him with all the taxes

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Judging from the interior shot, this house will need major renovations. That room is so Louis XVI -by way of Carl Reiner. The only thing missing is the '50s Philco TV on rollers. But I agree with EricOak, you don't want to go all Spelling Mansion on it. Yet the 'right touch' could easily exceed the cost of the property...

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sonyactivision,

As I said, the photos don't reflect the beauty of the house... at all. The rooms don't feel like a pastiche at all; in fact, they're convincing.

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