City March 19, 2009 2:52 PM

Bernard Zyscovich, Beyond Wingate

Bernard Zyscovich, Beyond Wingate

Bernard Zyscovich, architect, urban planner and designer of the latest version of Specialty Restaurant's Wingate Hotel on the Buffalo waterfront, made the front page of the New York Times business section yesterday.

Before you make note of the fact that the headline contains the words "Stalled Project," consider the economy, and go on to read what Zyscovich has to say about urban design in general. Also look at the fact that he created the complete master plan and wrote zoning and design guides for Midtown Miami.

Just for a moment, imagine that Zyscovich spoke this line about Buffalo's waterfront: 

"It's an interesting case study of how you can regenerate a space that's been vacant -- that has made no contribution to the neighborhoods around it -- into something more vibrant.  It's like an infill project on steroids."

Imagine our waterfront too, when you read the following phrases:  

...the site, which was until only recently the largest remaining undeveloped piece of land in the city's core.

...streets that are connected to the grid of the surrounding neighborhoods.

...the project has won praise for helping knit together two other neighborhoods.

He said he was disappointed that the buildings were built in "hopscotch" style, with empty lots separating them.

In a phone interview, Zyscovich made almost those same remarks about Buffalo's waterfront.  It's not because he plays one tune only, but because he's a studied and true urban planner, and he gets the concepts of integrated planning, density and destination along with respecting the original grid of a place - as planned for its necessary connectivity.  But to say he simply gets it is too simplistic; he has been part of it. 

In answer to whether or not he can be sensitive to Buffalo's esthetic, Zyscovich says, "In addition to Florida, Louisiana, the Bronx and the Hamptons, I've been successful in South America, the Caribbean, the Dominican Republic, Tobago.  But people love to label. I'm not the one talking about my reputation national, international or galactic level," Zyscovich says.  

"I don't know everything about Buffalo, but I know several things.  I worked on AM&A's, and it was a good project, but they just couldn't pull off.  Look, you've lost almost half of your population, and you seem to have an administration who's in the business of taking down buildings. It hasn't reached critical mass, but people aren't flocking in and investing in the city."

Zyscovich gives an example of some of his past work: "South Beach...In such bad shape, only $300,000 was being asked for a hotel with 80 rooms on Ocean Drive."  The area was a desolate mess according to Zyscovich.  Then the city added 5 feet to the sidewalk on the street side.  The hotel was purchased, a restaurant moved into the front, renovated the lobby, put cafe tables on the sidewalk, "and suddenly there was this Bohemian atmosphere.  2 hotel restaurants, then 5, then 12.  One project dosn't make the turn-around, but anticipating that first project can.  And if it's successful, there'll be somebody else."

As for the Wingate, Zyscovich said that we can plan on seeing new redesigns, but they would remain the same height.  As a cautionary tale to building too high on the water's edge, he referenced places like Rotterdam, who he says has moved their port three times and Hong Kong, where they built tall on the waterfront and then filled in more land on the water side of those buildings and built again.  "I'm looking out my window on Biscayne Bay, and almost everything I'm looking at was built on filled-in land.  It takes years of approval."

Zyscovich talked about Shanghai Reds and their surface parking lot, something heavily in contrast to Zyscovich's own tenets of new urbanism.  "[Specialty Restaurants] do this all over the country.  They create a destination restaurant on the water's edge or near an airport - less involved with the city, on the outskirts.  They're not known for integrating."

For someone who has built his career on integration, the question remains as to how Zyscovich sees this particular parcel of land's place.  How can Specialty's holdings be integrated within Buffalo?  "It's hard to expect that one project on its own will turn this area around," he says.  "The thought is: How does it fit into a bigger idea, with an ultimately filled-in building developments in the waterfront district?  It needs the right tone to make it a destination.  How to redefine parking layouts, bring people in for evenings and lunches?  It's a positive and strong project, but still just a hotel and restaurant, appropriate for beginning to draw people."

The first design submitted for the Wingate Inn was already troubling to the general public when Zyscovich came in to do the redesign, and he had his work cut out for him.  First there was a standard for a Wingate design that he had to overcome, then there was the public outcry for something better.  "I read the early blogs (you people love to blog), and when I attended meetings about this project, there was a good feeling in the room; my clients were making a real effort to understand. I had two [issues], the first dealt with how I felt about the project because it looked so suburban.  The second was that there was no context to the building, and so there was the idea of bringing Erie Street down, as a hinge to hang the project onto."

Wingate is a hotel brand, as Zyscovich notes, he says there's nothing inheriantly wrong with it save for its suburban prototype, but he also says that everyone involved understands how that doesn't meet Buffalo's waterfront needs.  "There's no sense of consensus, and we're looking for a transitional design - not renovated industrial or trendy modern.  It uses the vocabulary of Buffalo with more modern ideas - 2nd level glass stories, terraced rooftop over retail.  There'll be more redos, but hotels work on the grid of room layout. Right now, looking at from the Ciminelli and Pitts points of view, one person has a contract and is resubmitting in good faith on everybody's part to say, 'Okay, we'll do this more urban design, with permission to play with Wingate's brand, other than logo and signage.'"

And he'd like to dialogue about the plans more.  "The first meetings were good; the second [in council chambers] was a presentation with a lot of control, and little or no communication with the audience.  Still, I have to make a completed design, notwithstanding the slurs.  It will be beautiful and stylish."  As to the general public's lack of love for the hotel's current design, Zyscovich says,  "I have a track record and reputation, but there's never been a dialoging opportunity.  Dialogue is healthy.  It always gets down to public meetings to decipher realities."

Noting that the area now looks like a suburban office park, Zyscovich says that the Wingate project has the potential to be the first step in series of steps that will provide the framework for future development, to spur things along.  The architect's challenge lies in coming up with a design that Specialty Restaurants and the community will be able to live with.  "At the risk of being brutally honest," Zyscovich says, "Buffalo doesn't necessarily bring investment that could be risky, but it has beautiful resources and needs to begin something."

Zyscovich says that retail for the hotel design is not definite, but that space will be constructed for the sake of intention.  "By the time this is done, if there's not a bookstore or café, there will be something.  Absent waterfront retail, this is an opportunity for other space - a draw, but it's really hard in an economy like this for someone to take the risk on a place with so little foot traffic.  It's essential for the city to look at the future of the entire area."

To those ends, Zyscovich, who says he hasn't talked to anyone in city government yet, stated that Buffalo calls out for a comprehensive, overall plan. "The city needs analysis.  Who are we, what do we want to be, how do we get there?  This city bears the historical signature of a Joseph Ellicott designed street grid.  You need to stop demolitions and recreate neighborhoods.  The thing Buffalo has that so few other places do is high quality neighborhoods.  

"Buffalo has the right bones.  [A comprehensive plan] is more than lipstick and rouge.  Do you need a Bass Pro? [Hopes for revitalization] can't be put into looking at 'the one thing.' You need redevelopment of neighborhoods.  Look at your Elmwood Village; those are the same buildings they always were, and any plan needs to address what exists in a comprehensive way, with set regulations in place.  The economy sucks, so this is a good time to do that.  This project represents a piece.  You're a waterfront city.  It's a beautiful site, but totally messed up as far as I can see."

Zyscovich goes on to say that when everyone jumps on the "one big thing", it tends to make the issue emotional, and prospective builders will "go someplace easier to do a deal.  Instead of being the victim, be the winner."  Part of that, he says, is achieved by talking about projects civilly and objectively.  "There is an unnecessary fight here.  South Beach was redeveloped by people from New York working with people from South Beach.  Welcome development, with the city laying down the rules of engagement as clearly as possible, and then you can make the city what you want it to be."

Through studying old maps of the city, Zyscovich says that bringing back a street will reweave the network of the city.  Having done this type of planning before, he says his first thought was to protect the site where Erie Street cuts through a piece of the city offering.  It takes land away from offering, which changed the design right away, but he asserts that it's appropriate to put the street through and get the rest of the property in position for a new urban grid that will allow low buildings on both sides of the street.  "The waterfront faces the basin, Veteran's Park, and connects to Canal Side; it would potentially create double-sided waterfront.  It needs city involvement to take land, establish a right-of-way, and make this the first block of a commercial street that demands buildings be low on the edge of the water.  People want to see the sky and boat masts; a high rises would be urbanized and chic, but I don't see Buffalo's waterfront getting that sort of traffic."  

That advise comes from Zyscovich free of charge.  As for the Wingate project, he says, "Buffalo is beautiful, I love it.  I'm fascinated by the challenge and opportunity to do work where some number of small acts could have dramatic results.  Just like with boating, If your not moving, you're going backwards.  Some things need to happen.  If they do, the city will develop good PR.  It can be done."

Of Buffalo's planning in general, Zyscovich says, "I would love to be involved.  I see this as more than a [request for proposal] hotel project.  The real opportunities are in the bigger moves - the reconnection of the original grid, block by block, and with façade improvements.  If you can do this, five years later it will look like a different city."

Zyscovich references the work he did as part of the planning team for Loews Hotel in Miami, where putting back a street (16th Street) changed the face of blight and slum on a too-long block.  He pointed out street design in Barcelona, Spain, where the master planner, in 1869, cut the corner of every curb at a 45 degree angle, creating little plazas that have continued down to the waterfront.  In addition, Zyscovich mentioned his involvement with ArtsPark Circle in Hollywood, Florida.  It all plays into the idea of creating districts, rather than stand-alone destinations.

But Zyscovich would like to see one thing happen before he goes to his drafting table again: "We have to find way to have some kind of forum.  I'm into it, regardless of the noise.  Ultimately, something has to happen."  

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If Mr. Zyscovich wasn't obviously hampered by Specialty Restaurants, Wingate, Pitts, and the lack-of-vision that is the Mayor Brown administration, I would love to see what he could really do at the waterfront.

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ninja smoke.

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This is what I love about the style of Zyscovich: the desire for conversation, connecting to the city's traditions, finding a way to knit a city back together and taking into account its unique personality and place in time.

I hope this forum happens. It will give an opportunity to the community to suggest ways to improve the project even more.

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This is a GREAT article! And illustrates the old media saying that they reward the best writers by condemning them to be editors ;-)


And thank you, Mr. Zyscovich (which I understand is pronounced Ziss-CO-vich) for so generously sharing your time and thoughts. Since you may be reading, may I make a couple of suggestions--? First, about a comprehensive plan: check out Buffalo's award-winning plan, "Queen City Hub, a Regional Action Plan". It would be great to hear your thoughts about that at any future opportunity you have to comment. That plan specifically calls for re-establishing the radial street pattern. UB's Urban Design Program keeps a copy online at: http://urbandesignproject.ap.buffalo.edu/projects/hub/index.htm


Second, on a future visit to Buffalo (your next, perhaps), please consider holding a planning talk -- say, for UB planning and architecture students, but also open to the public. UB does similar things when people such as Toshiko Mori are in town, and the Rochester Regional Community Design Center in My Fair City regularly brings prominent figures in planning and architecture to Rochester to speak to the community and meet with community leaders. I think people in Buffalo (and especially readers of this site) would enjoy hearing you talk about "Real Urbanism" and more on your perspectives on Buffalo.


Thanks and regards.

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Its very hard to get from point A to point B with this project if the current shanghi reds remains. If this is to be a stepping stone to a better waterfront than the existing suburban restaurant needs to be reconsidered otherwise we are just drifting sideways. This plan needs to go long or go home otherwise Ciminelli's proposal should still be on the table.

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The only good thing about Shanghai reds is that it doesn't physically get into the way of an extended Erie Street. Let the building remain.. unfortunately it is there. In 15 years when it is falling apart we can worry about what to replace it with.


For now Mr. Zyscovich is right on that the city, aka US, need to take the first steps in setting the stage for proper future developments.


"It's essential for the city to look at the future of the entire area" This means actually getting politicians (Brown) to read and live by their own plans. Queen City Hub, Comp Plan and the Queen City Waterfront. If he and Casey would just follow the great work done before them then everyone's life would have been easier. The first wingate hotel option wouldn't have ever even been considered in the first place.


But he lets politics and old patronage cloud his decision making. And there the city does Not "lay down the rules of engagement as clearly as possible, and then you can make the city what you want it to be." Brown apparently wants the city to look like Genesee by the Airport. Whatever is easiest... and "doable."


Sorry Mr. Mayor, time to wake up. The city needs leadership based on analysis, history and community input... AKA the plans...


I am glad Mr. Zyscovich is bringing a real sense of urban design sense to this project. It makes me feel better knowing that it is Pitts calling the design shots and while I may disagree about some of the specifics. At least it isn't a politician yet again calling the design shots. Good luck and I hope you get through to them and help them to realize that the city deserve more, even if that means it doesn't produce a ribbon cutting before the next election.

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The point is if they want to compete against a project that is of greater value to the city, they need to reconsider both parcels, shanghi reds and the hotel parcel. And the building is never going to be considered "falling apart" and when that site may be reconsidered, after shanghi reds fails or whatever, you will not have the opportunity you may have now where shared structured parking could occur between the hotel and restaurant if the two sites where considered as one coheisve development that respects Erie St and provides a public waterfront edge. Another point - the hotel parcel retail gallery on the water with the public plaza as shown in the zyscovich renderings is destined to fail because of it's isolation and lack of connectivity. If you reconsidered Shanghi reds and connected an esplanade along the entire edge of the water (maybe step down to the water as done along the commercial slip so boats can dock)and linked back to the buffalo river walk providing a natural pedestrian connection you might have something. The opportunity is now, not in the future, and if this is even remotely feasable to the developers, it should be explored.

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After reading this, I see the saga in an entirely different light. Thank you Zyscovich!!

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With all due respect, I think you should go stand on that spot in the middle of winter, and I bet you will come up with a more appropriate design.

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His views on high rise waterfronts are self-validating myths. Rotterdam was completely destroyed by Germany in WWII and its reconstruction is an odd mix of old plan layouts and new buildings that run the gamut from vaguely respectful to wildly garish moderist crap. Hong Kong earns its civic budget through the sale of land to developers. That's why the harbor is being filled in and why developers who are paying upwardly spiraling prices for that newly created land must build larger, taller buildings to recoup their investment. One can certainly weave low, mid, and high rise structures into a vibrant waterfront such as what you see in Singapore or Boston. It isn't 'either-or'. And his interest in Buffalo is curious. Buffalo is a city that isn't defined by its waterfront but by its radial street layout and its public squares and parks. The waterfront was historically an industrial and commercial back alley spiked with a few grace note parks and beaches. It's an empty slate that's ready for fresh ideas...and the Wingate/Shanghai Reds combo just doesn't get us there.

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This is a great article, but I still think the new design needs to be really re-worked. The last thing I want to see is UB North on the waterfront.

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by the way i can not think of another place in downtown buffalo where there is the opportunity to create a real vibrant waterfront edge that is welcoming to the public but is fronted by commercial use. This is it. Even at Canalside, the central wharf lawn pushes development away from the water. This project could be incredible but the current shanghi reds can not be part of the solution as its relationship to the water is awkward, there is no public access, and the building is all but forgettable. There is so much potential in this spot and I think zycovich could make this the summertime destination in Western New York if both parcels were considered.

Otherwise, again, the city should go with Ciminelli.

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We should just pass on Mr. Zyscovich altogether. His ideas are mostly good but nearly anyone on this site could equal or surpass them and his involvement with Shanghai Reds and Wingate just makes me cringe. There's plenty of excellent ideas for the waterfront available and without the baggage of Mr. Pitts and the City hall crony complex. Thank him and wish him well back in Miami. We have a city to rebuild and don't need an interstate piss-break to waste our time and energy with.

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