Real Estate February 5, 2009 6:15 AM

Avant- Upscale Building, Upscale Pricing

Avant- Upscale Building, Upscale Pricing

High rise living comes with a high price at the Avant, the former Dulski federal building located at 200 Delaware Avenue.  Eight of the 27 condominium units being offered in the building are priced at over $1 million.  A total of 18 are priced over $500,000 according to today's The Buffalo News.  Before you scoff, one realtor familiar with the project says at least three of the $1 million+ residences are already spoken for.

A surge of residential development in recent years has added hundreds of apartments and lofts downtown, but no condos until now.  You will need deep pockets to buy one of the new high rise homes.  Residences at Avant range from a one-bedroom unit priced in the mid-$300's to a three-bedroom residence with a base price of $1,730,000. 

Sharon Linstedt has the story

"We realize these are the highest-priced condos Buffalo has ever seen, but we're very confident there is a market for them," said Uniland Vice President Michael J. Montante.

"We believe the product will create the demand," Montante said. "These are a first-of-their-kind in terms of quality and amenities. The price reflects the value and makes them a solid investment."

Since receiving approval from the state attorney general's office to begin condo sales, Uniland has signed "a good number" of purchase contracts, according to Montante.

Uniland anticipates selling all of the residences within the next 24 to 30 months. Well-heeled "empty nesters" and professionals relocating to Buffalo for downtown corporate jobs and positions at the Buffalo Niagara Medical Campus are prime sale targets.

Demand for larger, more expensive units apparently took Uniland Development Co. by surprise.  When first announced, plans called for 37 condominiums on the top three floors.  The number is now at 27 as interested buyers asked for larger units. 

Residences will be fitted with hardwood flooring and Auburn Watson cabinetry, high-end kitchen appliances, and have at least one patio.  Units on the 14th and 15th floors will have ten foot ceilings and soaring 18 foot ceilings on the 16th floor.

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Units will feature floor-to-ceiling city and/or water views. 

The Avant will include a 150-room Embassy Suites hotel on the first seven floors and 128,000 sq.ft. of office space on floors 8 through 12. Law firm Damon & Morey has signed-on for two floors, or roughly 51,000 sq.ft. of office space.  Each use will have separate entrances and elevators, but will share many of the Embassy Suites features and services.  A two-story glass enclosed restaurant and an Espresso bar are planned for the first floor. 

Condominium owners will have access to 24-hour concierge services, room service and valet underground parking.  Buyers will have their own fitness center and party and conference rooms.

Avant joins Waterfront Place in targeting the new build, high-end condominium buyer.  Units at Waterfront Place range from 1,342 sq.ft. for a one-bedroom unit priced from $295,000 to over 2,600 sq.ft., three-bedroom units priced from the high $700's.  Two eleventh floor penthouse units are priced at over $1 million.  Waterfront Place buyers have started taking occupancy in recent weeks.

Residences in the $85 million project are expected to be ready this fall.

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I really hope this project works for the long term and that all of the units and office space sell. I am interested to see what the occupancy rate is going to be though for the Embassy Suites. There is only so much demand for hotel space, and I am not sure that downtown really needs another 150 rooms of it.

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Well Amherst is building two hotel \ motel things near north campus right as we speak. Right in the midst of at least 6 others. They build about 1 a year over the past 5 years it seems. There is regional demand and it is up to Buffalo and developers to get some of those beds downtown and not hidden in a nondescript 'hotel park'.

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They build so many hotels around North Campus because they never have enough dorm space and end up having entire floors of the hotels filled with Freshmen.

Also, maybe if the Embassy Suites is a big hit, the Hyatt will finally step up and do something about their horrid rooms.

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I received a tour of this building last fall. The views from the top floors are amazing. I'm also glad that Embassy Suites is involved. While downtown Buffalo doesn't really need more hotel rooms...what it really needs is more high-end hotel rooms. The Hyatt is a wreck and the Adam's Mark has its challenges.

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I work with some people who come to work in Buffalo M-F and are unable to get hotel rooms downtown on a regular basis. They are frequently stuck staying out at the airport.

A friend recently stayed at the Hyatt (this past Saturday night) and he said the room was a new modern room. I know the lobby update has been completed, however, I'm unsure of the status of all of the rooms and the new workout facility, which they were planning on putting on the main floor.

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i don't necessarily disagree with you regarding hotel space,that is an argument made by many, and they certainly have the numbers to back that claim up. my perspective is a bit different. my feeling is that our hotel room stock is outdated and not conducive to a 'big money' tourist. now, i believe if we play our cards right, we are on the verge of an expanding cultural tourism industry right here, and again, if we play our cards right, something we're notoriously not known for. modern hotel space is essential for that. the adams mark and the hyatt are laughable in their current state (sorry guys, but you're just okay). projects like this raise the bar on what is acceptable for our guests. part of making people want to come back for a visit (other than really great cultural attractions) are what kind of amenities do we have? can we give these people really cool places to stay? also, can we have the ability to attract higher profile events/conventions with the current state of our hotels? they're good, but not great. the ncaa's and the iihf tournaments are great examples of why we need better options for our guests. can we attract an all star game, can we attract an event which would normally go to indianapolis, or nyc or toronto, or even las vegas,right now, probably no, not because they're better than us, but because their infrastructure is better than ours. they have built their central core to welcome out of towners to spend their money there. we have enough here right now to make it happen, but it needs to be better organized and given a more aggressive direction. tying in niagara falls ont. tourists, vintage tours, building up our theater district to be a world class district attracting top performers, opening new restaurants, and dare i say it, retail for tourists and residents alike to enjoy. hsbc arena events, the canalside attractions and hotel, the casino attractions and hotel (sorry, mr. rose, i'm not with you on that one), the waterfront hotel (sorry, mayor brown, i like the other one better), the franklin/huron boutique hotel, and this one on delaware, i view them all as preparation for a new growth industry here in buffalo. it is bold and exciting, something we can be known for...and as for the adams mark and hyatt, well, you'll just have to keep up.

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"Casino Attractions"? I spit out my coffee reading that. Lets hope for their saftey and our pride no tourists run afoul of our soon to be 333 million dollar OTB and civic shame. Besides the hotel rooms will be fully occupied from comps given to the poor saps who just blew their weeks paycheck.
As far as the Avant condos go I think its great to see million dollar housing going up downtown. If it works out the way the developer thinks you can expect more of the same. Im interested to see if these buyers are coming from other condo developments downtown or elsewhere.

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well, i certainly hope you didn't get any coffee on your computer screen or keyboard. i would hate to think i would be the one responsible for wrecking your access to the internet, anyway, since you thought it was hilarious, here's my take...there are two schools of thought when it comes to the casino and their 'attractions'. one believes it is bad for society and only poor people will be the patrons, thus making them even more poorer. fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion. others believe that a casino and hotel will compliment the downtown entertainment experience. basically, something to do. in the big picture, the casino will not be the main source for the economy the way it is for atlantic city, or niagara falls usa. i view it like a place such as tampa bay. they have the seminole hard rock casino and hotel, an indian run business and it is not the primary source for their economy. they have tourists there who now have other options when they visit. niagara falls is approaching their casino experience as a catalyst for economic development, as we see, nothing has happend as a result. the plan in buffalo includes much more as far as development in that area goes, and it will happen with or without the casino hotel going up. again, it is about options. those people coming in from europe for the hockey tournament, or for any reason, they might want to gamble a bit, so what. others might want to take in the chippewa district, yet others might want to spend their free time checking out the theater district, and who knows how quickly things develop for canalside, restaurants? retail? the key is options, 'there's stuff to do while in buffalo, i had a good time there, maybe we'll come back'. thinking its just for our poor and desperate is exactly the kind of mentality that continues to prevent us from breaking loose. the avant, the casino, the waterfront, the proposed hotels, its all just part of the plan.

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Elias - That was the greatest analogy I have ever heard on buffalorising. I could not agree more. I am so sick of people saying the casino is an end all be all. In a CITY it should be one option. If you go to most european cities or canada, casinos are one option. It can be A piece of a puzzle which will help diversify our entertainment options and economy. I have also visited the seminole HR Casino in Tampa. It certinly does not define tampa but only complements it as a thriving city. I really hope buffalo doesnt miss the boat on this one. It can be a dynamic district with HSBC Areana, Canalside, the Casino, Cobblestone area, and the Marina. We may possibly have something here Buffalo, LETS NOT BLOW IT!!!

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I see. Kind of like how the Quick Draw room at Frontier Liquor gives the people of the Grant street neighborhood somthing to do. Speaking of which Id reccomend all of the pro casino types check out this place at Grant+Breckinridge to see the Casinos target market. Anyone expecting a little slice of vegas will see a bunch of sorry souls staring at the video screen throwing away the little disposable income they have to get their fix. Now picure this on a 333 million dollar scale and you will understand why I think this is such a disaster.
I certainly would not want anyone from out of town to see this embarrasment. Id have trouble keeping my head up trying to explain that yes casino gambling is illegal in NYS but we gave away some prime downtown property to the local indain tribe who can legalize anything they want. How local leaders thought so little of Buffalo that they were willing to prostitute it to the gambling interests for just a few bucks. Do you really want the people from the hockey toruney rubbing shoulders with the Escape from New York casino patron crowd?
Anyway I do respect your thought process and of course you are entitled to your opinion. (my keyboard is fine, thanks for your concern.)I only wish I could share your optimisim.

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Casinos are quite adept at screening the riff raff out, thank you very much. They don't make a huge investment only to stand idly by and allow their image to suffer. Most casino patrons I've seen parked in front of slot machines are ordinary middle class folk. The poor that you describe get burned out quickly and casinos do not want their business. With an upscale hotel alongside other dining and entertainment attractions, the Buffalo Creek Casino will cater to upscale people, preferrably from the region, not a bombed out neighborhood. Your anti-casino bias is what's bleak about your writing.

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"Upscale hotel"? There is a difference between gawdy and upscale. Also "upscale people" are too smart to dump their money at a locals only ghetto casino. This place will be filled with Buffalos dregs. Judging by the the blinged out rusty 96 Cadillacs that fill the temporary sheds parking lot I dont think Im too far off.
Reading these posts is easy to see why the 333 million "Porkys Buffalo" is so popular. Everyone pictures a little slice of the vegas strip with glitz and glamour. Why does everyone choose to ignore the countless examples of casino failures including the **** shack they have in the falls?
Ill shut up now as the topic has drifted from the Avant.

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you're funny...ghetto casino, porky's buffalo, escape from new york, i must say, you are well versed with some of hollywood's finest films. you missed back to the future 2...here is the big picture, and i'll leave you with this...one of the biggest things we have missed out on is the fact that forever, people have been looking to spend money somewhere. part of what makes an area viable is attracting people from other areas and giving them a great experience where they are willing to part with their cash, give it to you or a business operating in your area in exchange for it. and this is where the avant gets tied back in to this conversation. great hotels, great restaurants, great entertainment, world class sporting events, new high rises, can change the perception of a region. the avant has an opportunity to offer some of that to outsiders. so does a casino with a high rise hotel. so would high quality museums, so would a world class waterfront, i can go on and on. the biggest issue i have with casino opponents is their inability to see the bigger picture. case in point, your hijacking of this disussion, getting hung up on the casino proposition and refusing to see the bigger picture. you said so yourself. you wish you could share my optimism. well, you can. instead, you choose to spin your wheels on this one private development and act like it is only targeting local dregs of society, and then start with the name calling, and then give an unreasonable assumption that all casino patrons are pathetic losers. well, my pit bull loving friend, buffalo is moving forward, and replacing some of those lost manufacturing jobs, which by the way, aren't coming back, with service, tourism, entertainment oriented jobs. that is a part of it. we have a long way to go, but the best way to change the perception of who we are is to move forward and reinvent ourselves, and if a casino is a part of it, well, so be it. i don't believe most people think that we'll have a slice of vegas glitz. it's not vegas, it's buffalo. we are not building a strip of casinos and depending on that business to drive our economy. well, i'd like to keep going, but i have to watch the grammy's now, and long for the days when top recording artists wanted to play buffalo...

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Very well said.

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Actually transpo the only hotel rooms I consider worthy are Hampton Inn and The Mansion so if we think of it that way we need at least two more hotels after this one. The Hampton hovers arount 90%+ and Embassy I predict will be the same. Hyatt, Adams Mark, Comfort etc.. can all fight over the scraps until another couple quality properties come in and put them out of thier misery. We have been underserved for far to long. In fact this is the problem across WNY in almost every sector...give them quality (Wegmans, Mansion, Condos, $4 coffees, sushi, Spa's, Sabres (2006), Steakhouses) and watch them line up out the door with cash in hand. Close minded developers and politicians have treated us like poor, wretched and unsophisticated neanderthals forever. GO Avant!!!!!

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very expensive are these...between maintenance and taxes, you re talkin g NYC prices... DO the developers realize there is a deepeming recession happening or are they in a bubble?

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Why isnt Buffalo Rising posting anything about their beloved Brian "Nightclub" Davis and his check bouncing fraud story???

http://www.buffalonews.com/258/story/569382.html

Fair and balanced now QE!!

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MEC, Elias and VGS,

Thanks for the perspective on the downtown hotel room situation. I didn't realize that the Hampton was near 90%. You are right, if the Embassy suites can get close to that number, they will be in great shape.

I am pretty sure I heard recently that Adam's Mark was transitioning into a new brand, maybe that will do something to improve the quality of their rooms and atmosphere.

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NYC prices? Last I checked you can't get a rinky dink studio for less then $750,000 which probably will need major upgrades to begin with. This project was started before the recession, just glad they didn't stop midstream like the Indians. Hopefully the success of this project will move the Gates Circle condos along that much faster.

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SadLlama, $750,000 for studios in NYC? You can find good studios for $250,000.

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Roni, As well as focusing on why the only startups are coffee and flower shops that employ next to nobody.

The real estate development boom Buffalo has seen has lagged (as usual) the rest of the country, and is about to roll over as it has already done in the rest of the country. Nice building, but 3 years too late. I hope it gets filled up, but that may take some time.

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I think this building is going to be great. The hotel will get to see most likely a full booking in 2011 for the Junior Hockey Championships. Buffalo hasn't really been affected by the recession and hopefully it will end soon and we will get out unharmed. Contrary to popular belief, there is still quite a bit of money around the Buffalo region and talking to people from other areas of the country, people love Buffalo. I go to college out of the region and people always compliment how nice the city is and all the cultural benefits there are to the region. Also, I just want to mention that $1 million is not much anymore. If you can find a similar NYC condo in that price range, I applaud you. I did a simple search and for a 3-bedroom condo in NYC for the approximately the same price, you would be living in Harlem. Prices for the nicer areas of NYC are well over $2.5 million to start.

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buffalo hasnt been afftected? Really? There have been over 1500 job cuts announced in Buffalo in just the past 30 days...there is a huge drop coming to us soon. We always lag by a couple years...wait til the foreclosures come to a head, sas they are already starting rampantly

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1500 + 1. i just got the boot yesterday 'business is too slow' ah well.

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My perspective of hotel space is we don't have enough. Working as part of Garden Walk Buffalo, we've tried to talk to bus tour operators, through the CVB, to include Garden Walk Buffalo (July 25 & 26) as part of tour itineraries. But, not having any available hotel rooms in Buffalo that weekend, we cannot pursue them. That is consistent every last weekend of July for the past few years. I can't speak to any other weeks or seasons, but it's frustrating we can't attract more people her for an event simply because there's not enough accommodations.

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NYC prices are down...

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NYC prices are way down...but still much higher than 500k

1 Million for a 1 BR would be a pretty good deal in most of the decent parts of the city. I'm assuming these 1 Million dollar apartments are more like 3 bedrooms

Can't really compare with NYC prices. Sure there are some utterly cheap hellholes, but a decent apartment is going ot be much more than 500k

Check out Trulia.com if you think i'm nuts

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New condos in Brooklyn have gone below $1,000 per sq. ft. In Manhattan, prices are falling, depending on the neighborhood, and $1,200-1,500 per sq. ft. is increasingly common. But Tribeca is still up. Avant should get good response for all but the priciest units (which might do better as hotel suites) that, for $1.7 mil. ought to have 4-6 bedrooms with a separate elevator. Just saying.

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I read an article recently that said that most hotels start making money when they hit the 50-60% occupancy. People are looking for nice urban hotels, and this place will deliver that and more.

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I continue to be dumbfounded at the prices. I still can't imagine that there are that many jobs in this area that pay that well to afford such housing.
Or as some have suggested are we sitting on a real estate bubble ready to burst when two incomes go to one and are stuck with the monthly price tag of these places.
As much as I am grateful for the revitalized image that these projects create I would like to see projects for the "average" folks to enable them to come back and enjoy living in the city.

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FredOak: There are many professionals in this area earning the salaries necessary to carry a 350,00 to 1.7M mortgage. Two IT professionals making the area average of $70K would qualify. Specialty physicians (radiologist, cardiologists, etc.) regularly earn $500,000. I expect many (not most) attorneys do as well. A double income family would need just two salaries at half those rates to qualify for the majority of the units.

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Fred>"As much as I am grateful for the revitalized image that these projects create I would like to see projects for the "average" folks to enable them to come back and enjoy living in the city."

Fred, there’s no shortage in the city of available residential affordable to “average” folks. According to http://www.buffalo.com/homefinderextra
there’s currently for sale in the city for asking prices between $95K and $300K over 160 possibilities: 67 single family houses, 34 condos and townhomes, and 62 multiple unit houses. There’s also many affordable nice rental possibilities across the city that are seeking tenants to occupy them.

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I just wanted to post this as an addition to my earlier post. http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/02/05/2009-02-05_nyc_so_costly_you_need_to_earn_six_figur.html

While the cost might be up there, Buffalo is remarkably affordable in other areas of daily life and has a low cost of living. There is still money in Buffalo and the recession will be over soon enough.

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tbefc57: great post, everyone should read it.

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with all these million dollar condos everywhere downtown,maybe mugging will become a popular profession for all the people losing there jobs. "let metro take you where you want to mug someone"!!! no more dollar and a dream, more like, a dollar seventy five and a handgun.

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